DSC Books: Seven Days: A Journey Into Awareness - Days One to Three
Day One continued (Section 7)
Question: (In Spanish) On what plane does Aaron exist? Is the difference on the quantum level or the energy information level?
Barbara: Thats one I have to give Aaron.
Aaron: I am Aaron. I understand your question, but the terms do not quite fit themselves together. You exist on what I would call the causal plane, that is, you are still subject to the laws of karma. I exist, let us simply say beyond the causal plane. In essence I am energy. All of you are that same energy. The pure energy that you are becomes distorted by the various filters of ego, of mental thought and emotions. My energy is not influenced by those distortions although clearly, I do offer thought.
What I would like to ask you to do is visualize a very clear and open energy stream. You could see it as a clear, cold waterfall. If you subjected that waterfall to some kind of pressure, perhaps a strong air force of wind blowing against it, it would contract. You can visualize this simply as a cluster of string hanging down. It hangs straight, but if you grab it theres a contraction in it, a pinch. That energy contraction comes only on the causal plane. It is the foundation of the distortion I speak of. Because I have no emotional body, my energy flows very straight and uncontracted.
When you talk of quantum level, I dont think the difference is there at all. Its all energy, my energy directed into thought patterns moves through without distortion. Your energy of thought pattern becomes distorted by the various emotions and images of self which compress upon those thought patterns. I do not know if I have answered your question. If not, I would be glad to attempt it again if you would rephrase it. I pause.
Question: (In Spanish) Dont you call your experience energy information?
Aaron: I am Aaron. I prefer to call it pure awareness, which expresses itself as information. There is a subtle, but distinct difference. Do you understand? I pause.
Question: (In Spanish) Can you talk about the resurrection?
Barbara: Aaron is asking, are you talking specifically about the Christian belief in the resurrection of Jesus or are you talking more about the redemption of all beings in whatever form that redemption takes?
Question: The latter.
Aaron: I am Aaron. This is a helpful question. It leads us back into the question, Why are we doing this spiritual work? Different religions have their own way of expressing the same truth. In the Christian idiom, one may die and find oneself in a hell or purgatory state. The belief is that through the Christ one is redeemed and eventually finds its way to paradise. Some Christians would take this quite literally, that through this specific beings energy, which they believe to be a direct manifestation of divine energy, this happens. It comes through the effort of the Christ. A looser interpretation is that there is that which we would call Christ consciousness. Buddhists call this same thing Buddha nature. It is the place that, when you are there, youre totally within God and God within you. It is the highest level of your being. When you rest in that highest, purest level of being, you are instantly free from the hell realms. Their solidity shatters. This is also through the Christ or Buddha, but not necessarily through the being who bore that name.
Whether we are speaking of death and afterlife, or simply the moment to moment redemption and freedom, this is your birthright, this redemption, this freedom. Freedom to experience the highest divine level of being comes when you access this Christ consciousness, Buddha nature, pure awareness, however you want to name it. Through this experience of the divine, you manifest your own divinity. Its not, then, that Christ doesnt save you, its simply a different way of interpreting salvation.
I will not get into a religious or philosophical debate here. I find what I teach really is consistent with most religious philosophies, but not if you take them absolutely literally. If you prefer to take it literally, and my words are inconsistent, then put my words aside and follow your own heart.
This sense of redemption through Christ, then, can loosely be translated as redemption through resting in the divine in the self. One can reasonably argue that one is introduced to that divine through ones love of Jesus or with ones love of the Buddha or any other great master.
There is something interesting that Barbara recently read in a book which Id like to share with you. I believe she has the book with her. I pause.
Barbara: One moment please, while I find out what Aaron wants me to read. Okay, this is a book Id like to recommend to you, anyhow. Its called, The Ground We Share. Its a dialogue between a zen master, Robert Aitken and a Jesuit priest, Brother David Steindl-Rast. Its a very beautiful dialogue in which theyre exploring similarities between their religions. Theyre not saying differences dont exist, only exploring similarities. Let me see if I can find what Aaron wants me to read.
This is from Brother David. Theyve been discussing the relationship between the historic Christ and, what Brother David was calling, the cosmic Christ. Brother David says, The relationship between the historic Christ and the cosmic Christ is very subtle. You could say that the historic thesis was totally alive with the cosmic Christ reality, but did not exhaust that reality.
Each one of us, when we find our fulfillment is totally filled with the Christ reality, but none of us exhausts the Christ reality because that is the spirit or life of the totality. Robert Aitken goes on to talk about how that compares with Buddhist teaching and the same idea that we cannot exhaust the Buddha nature, that these are very comparable terms.
I am paraphrasing Aaron here. He is saying that what he considers our redemption comes when we become fully awake to the deepest truth of our being, however we name that truth. As long as we believe in the myth of our brokenness and limitation, we enact that in the world. When we discover our divinity we may choose to enact that divinity. Then the small self becomes transparent and eventually falls away.
Question: (In Spanish) Can you meditate anywhere?
Barbara: Absolutely. One practice that Aaron has taught me and that I have worked with for many years is when I first wake up in the morning hes asked me, first, to be aware Am I breathing in or breathing out? with my first awareness. Then, he requested I not change my position, but lie there in the position in which I woke up and simply note, comfortable, pleasant or uncomfortable, unpleasant. Hes asked me to really be there, lie there and meditate, lying right there in bed, for five or ten minutes, letting awareness come into my body. Then, if I get myself up out of bed, I can go and meditate elsewhere.
If you wake up in the middle of the night, you can meditate there. If youre stopped in your car, not at a traffic light, but in a traffic jam thats clearly going to be ten or fifteen minutes, thats a wonderful place to meditate. It doesnt matter what youre sitting on. It doesnt matter where you are.
A student whos a nurse, who works a night shift from seven at night to seven in the morning in an intensive care ward where people are very, very sick, so the work is very intense, finds that she needs time to meditate and the nurses lounge is too busy. So, she goes into the womens restroom and the only place to sit is on the toilet seat with the lid closed. She goes in there and meditates, and its very quiet and she sits there for ten or fifteen minutes. You can meditate anywhere.
Question: (In Spanish) Is it better to meditate sitting straight and in a formal meditation position?
Barbara: I never want to give hard and fast rules. People who are sick may need to do it differently, for example. A friend who was dying of cancer couldnt sit, but that doesnt mean he couldnt meditate. If your body is healthy, theres a benefit to sitting up straight, being self-supporting. Part of what were learning is that we do not need to lean on things; we can fully support ourselves. Its part of learning our wholeness.
On the other hand, if the situation is such, like driving Hal and I were in Taxco for the weekend, before we came here, and drove back in a crowded bus. The seat I was sitting on leaned back and the seat in front of me was in my face. There was no way to sit up and I wanted to meditate. Of course, I can meditate leaning back like that. So, we have an ideal. But in certain circumstances we do what we can with what weve got.
Question: (In Spanish) (Inaudible)
Barbara: Are you talking about these chairs here in this room? Okay. Because of the slope of the seat and back, it may cause back pain if you try to sit up, so if you need to lean against the back of the chair, thats fine. If youre going to meditate at home, put books or wood blocks under the rear legs of the chair, so that the seat is slightly sloped with the rear higher. Then, you dont have to lean back. You dont want your back to hurt. We have enough pain in our lives. We dont have to create artificial rules and generate more pain. Generally speaking, if you have a choice and can sit in a chair that allows you to sit without leaning back, thats to be preferred.
If you cant, if theres no choice and theres some irritation that theres no choice, that mind state is a perfect place to practice. Whats creating your dissatisfaction, your suffering even? Is it the chair itself or is it your quarrels with the situation? We have such a lot of opinions about how things should be, but conditions are seldom ideal. Where is peace to be found in those situations where we cant change the conditions?
Question: (In Spanish) Can I meditate at night in bed?
Barbara: I dont want to be facetious, but it depends on whether youre awake or asleep. Meditation is awake, present. When you close your eyes and youre falling asleep, everything is shutting down and often youre not very present. I recommend to people that they meditate before they go to sleep, but not lying down in bed, because that just puts you to sleep. Sit on a chair or cushion and meditate. Then, youll be in a very quiet but alert state, very present, very quiet. Then, go to sleep. Youll sleep more soundly. If you find yourself falling asleep while sitting on the chair, you have a number of choices. Ill talk later about working with sleepiness.
This is the last question and then well meditate for a bit.
Question: (Inaudible) (About sleepiness.)
Barbara: When we lie down and close our eyes, were used to thinking of it as sleep time. Its just conditioning. So, when we close our eyes we need to recondition ourselves to be present, that its awake time. Another reason we get sleepy is that meditation opens us, so that much of what weve repressed starts to come up. Theres resistance to experiencing some of it, so much of our sleepiness is simply a statement of our resistance. We can learn to work with that. Its very workable. Ill talk more about it this afternoon.