Aaron, Jeshua, and Barbara on the Awakened State; The Lord’s Prayer with Jeshua
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Barbara: I’ve been introducing myself… The first part was not recorded, meeting Aaron. People began to come to me and ask, “Can we talk to him?” I said, “Sure; if you can hear him, you can talk to him.” Well, other people said, “I can’t hear him.” How do I do this? Aaron said, “Just listen the way you do when I’m talking to you and say out loud what you’re hearing.” Somebody then said to me, “Oh, you’re channeling.” What’s channeling? This was very new to me.
Everything he was teaching me for myself made so much sense, and people said what he was saying to them made sense. So gradually I began to trust it. — I trusted Aaron; what I didn’t trust was my own capacity to get it clear; to not tilt it slightly based on my own ego or fear or ideas. But gradually I began to trust that ability too.
This is back in 1989, in the living room of our house. People coming twice a week. One night a week for meditation class; at first, 4 or 5 of us, then 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 20! And people came one night a week, Wednesday nights, to hear Aaron. In December of 1989, with us gathered in my living room, Aaron said, “Since I was alive during Jeshua’s life, I would like to tell you some stories about what I knew of him.” That was our first Christmas Stories. We’ve been doing it annually ever since.
I find these stories beautiful. A friend, Bill Altork, put together a very lovely book of parts of the stories. Some of these stories are 10, 15 pages, but he’s extracted 2 or 3 pages and put these extracts together into a book called 47 Stories of Jesus. We have some for sale out there.
I love these stories and what they bring up for people. They help me to know Jeshua as a human being and not just the Jeshua of the Bible stories. They make him very real for me, very loving.
Fast forward. The past 15 years I’ve been a medium for other entities, not just Aaron, and among these entities, Jeshua, who has said he will also speak tonight. He will join us and share his take on what Aaron is teaching. It would be lovely if they could talk side by side, but only one can be in my body at a time. So, we’ll let them change places as needed.
That’s the introduction. Deep Spring Center meets here regularly. This is Interfaith Center. We’re blessed to be permitted to use the Center. Dave Bell founded the Center in— what year, David? 1998. Thank you, and thank you and Interfaith Center for sharing the place with us. It’s given us a wonderful home, with a wonderful energy, and we’re grateful.
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That said, I’m just going to move myself out of the way and invite Aaron to come in.
Aaron: My blessings and love to you all. I am Aaron. What a joy to see all your faces! I don’t see the faces up there, but I imagine there are people there, yes? (yes) My love to all of you. We truly have an international audience here. People across the U.S. and Canada… We’ve had people in recent months from China, from Dubai, from all over. It’s such a delight to be able to share these teachings.
So here we are sitting by my campfire. It is a comfortable winter evening, but the fire feels good and we’re all gathered in close to hear campfire stories; to hear stories of my beloved brother and friend Jeshua. He has promised us he will put in a personal appearance later tonight.
Each month we do, I don’t know the technical word for it but making available something called Dharma Dialogue, a 20 minute sharing from me that’s on the web site and available to anybody online. In the December Dialogue I spoke about the idea of awakening, that we are all here to awaken, and yet at another level we are already awake. We all have the nature of awakened mind, but it has not yet fully become manifest. So, you are here in incarnation to help manifest that nature and bring it out into the world.
Some beings, like Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, were born not yet awake and awakened in the incarnation. He’s a wonderful model for us of the possibility to fully awaken. Some beings like Jeshua came here fully awake, and yet he was still human. He still knew body pain, knew emotions, but he did not need to enact them.
I said in the December Dialogue that I would speak a bit about my experiences with Jeshua as an awakened being. In some of the stories you’ve heard, after the told story drew to a close and I was still sitting there with Jeshua, I had the opportunity as I walked with him to say, “How did you do that? What was happening for you” as this or that event occurred? At that point I was not yet fully awake, but he gave me great insight into the nature of this awakened mind.
What do I mean by awake? Knowing the true self. Knowing who you really are, beyond the ego beyond all inner and outer forms. Knowing the radiant essence of yourself. The rest is clothing. It’s beautiful clothing, or sometimes it’s angry and confused clothing. But when you peel it all off, there is an essence, the radiant spirit, that you have forgotten in the busyness involved with all the externals.
When you live from that essence, it is very different because the deepest truth— not your truth but THE truth, the truth of God/Goddess, the truth of love, can come forth. When it comes forth there is nothing more powerful. Love.
Let’s begin with a story that I have told many times. A group of us were walking down a road with Jeshua. There was a man ahead of us with a very overburdened donkey. He was beating the donkey, who could barely lift his feet. He was tottering, falling to his knees, beaten and staggering up again. I could see that Jeshua became angry. Let me phrase that differently. I could see that tension was arising in Jeshua but not being expressed as judgment or hostility.
He approached the man and said, “Your donkey cannot carry that. We’re going your way. Let us take these burdens. We can all carry them, and you can walk with your donkey to the nearest village.” The man was alarmed at first. He thought we were thieves and we would take all these things and run off. “No, we would walk right here next to you. But this poor donkey is going to die on the road here, and it hurts my heart. Let us help.” So we carried the burdens, a half dozen of us, each laden down with something.
We reached the nearest village. The man walked up what would be a tavern, tied the donkey’s reins around a post, and ran inside. Said, “Just drop the things here.” Again, I saw anger come up in Jeshua. He untied the donkey and brought it into the nearest stable, made sure it had food and water. He very gently tended to the donkey’s wounds, wounds the donkey had received from his beating, and left the donkey fed, comfortable, warm, and with great relief from its pain.
That’s the story that I’ve told you so far, how Jeshua did not enact his anger on this man, which would have scared the man away, which would have just led him to beat the donkey more. But could say, “That’s enough. Let us help.” Because of Jeshua’s great presence and kindness, that help could be accepted. So Jeshua was a master of his emotions. He didn’t let his anger get in the way. I repeat, he was human, even though he was enlightened. So, if conditions were present, anger might arise. But he saw anger as energy, not as something that would be used to do harm to others. Just anger.
Afterward we sat around our fire, and I asked, “Jeshua, what were you thinking? What were you feeling?” He said, “I almost lost my temper. I was feeling so much rage at his beating of this poor beast. So much sadness that people can be so self-centered and hateful.” But he went on to say, “I remember that this is why we have all come into the incarnation. We have come to watch this kind of anger, the anger I felt, the anger the man felt, and to transmute anger to compassion. To use that anger as energy that could bring forth love. And so, from the force of my anger, the power of my anger, I was able to offer all of us to carry the donkey’s burden. To get him safely to a stable. To take care of him. And in this way, to bring greater Light into the world”
“What will happen tomorrow, Jeshua, when the man again attempts to load the donkey?”
“Ahh!” he said, “I have bought the donkey! The donkey will accompany us tomorrow, and he will have no burdens.”
“But won’t the man just buy another donkey?”
“There are no more donkeys available in town. I have asked. He will be forced to sell his wares here, or, to find several donkeys, which may somehow appear when he is ready to distribute the load on 4 or 5 appropriate donkeys.”
I said, “Jeshua, are you saying you can make that happen?”
He said, “No, not I. Love will make it happen. When you hold yourself with the heart of love, and choose to manifest in accordance with love,” he said, “you could call it God, the Father, Goddess, Love, whatever you wish, it will support the arising of what is needed when it is needed, when you move fully resonant with that need. But when there is anger trying to push and manipulate, then the situation just crashes. Then nothing wholesome can happen.”
He did not say, “I am an enlightened Master and I know this.” He just spoke from his heart. He never once, in all our time together, said to me, “I am an enlightened Master.” Only, “I speak from the heart of the Father, the heart of Love. I speak from the heart of the Mother. I am Love.” He knew this without any doubt. The question for him, I think, was how to help others know it within themselves too. He understood that pushing people, forcing people with anger, with fear, trying to coerce people, would only scare them more into the ego self and distance them from this awakened core. How do we help people find that awakened core and live from it? How do we find that awakened core and live from it? It is not so hard. But it takes a real commitment. It takes knowing your highest intention to do no harm but only good. And that you do have the power to choose in that way, to choose not to harm.
Another story, and here perhaps we’re going to do something a little unusual and see several sides of the story. A few of you thinking, “Aaron, no new stories tonight?” Well, after 30 years of telling these stories, how many new stories can I have of Jeshua? But we can go deeper, and you’re ready to go deeper. If you want those thirty years of stories, look in the book 47 Stories for the brief version. Look in the Deep Spring archives’ transcripts for the full stories. There are three decades of them.
Once again, several of us were walking down a road with Jeshua, in a valley with hills rising on either side. We heard cries—the road going straight, a pathway leading up into the hill, and cries of pain coming from up there. Jeshua said, “I will go. Come with me if you wish.” He looked directly at me as he said that, so it was clear to me that he wished me to come, but he was also leaving the choice to me.
I followed him, and my son, Mark, was with me, a boy of about 12 years. As we climbed the hill and around a bend, a half mile, we found ourselves in a leper colony. Immediately I was terrified, because I had been taught that leprosy was highly contagious. Jeshua was completely comfortable. We walked in. The cries were coming from a woman in childbirth, but the baby was not presenting itself correctly. They were not able to bring the baby forth, so she was in much pain, and the midwife was not able to help.
Jeshua turned to me, knowing I was a shepherd. My name was Nathaniel. He said, “Nathaniel, you know how to help a birth. Will you see what you can do?” And he left it open for me to say, “I don’t think I can. I know how to birth sheep, not humans.” But he looked deep into my eyes, and it was clear that he knew I could do this, if I could step beyond my fear.
So, really, a sheep and a human birth are not all that different. I was able to reach my hand in and untangle the way the baby was presenting, literally to draw it out. One foot was tangled around its head; I pushed the foot back so the head flowed out, and the baby was born. I’m sure Jeshua was able to help release some of the woman’s pain, and that helped the smooth birth. Once I began, I was no longer afraid of leprosy. It was simply a woman who was suffering, a baby who would die. So, the baby was born, and I took the baby and handed it to Jeshua, who very gently wrapped it and handed it to Mark.
Fear came up. It’s okay for me; if I get leprosy, I get leprosy. But this is my beloved son, and he’s handing my son a baby, born of a woman with leprosy. What will happen to my son? Fear! Fear! And then the recognition: of course, Jeshua would not do anything to harm my son. And then another thought: but maybe it’s some kind of test? Who knows? And finally, surrender: whatever is for the highest good, I will trust this situation. And I smiled at Mark. All of this happening in an instant, all these running thoughts. I smiled at Mark and said, “Take the baby.”
That’s the basis of the story. There’s more in the archives, what happens afterward. A beautiful story, and I believe you can find it online. When this is transcribed, I’ll try to find the rest of the story and piece it in. I don’t want to waste our time here tonight giving the rest of the story I’ve already told, because our focus tonight is a bit different.
I spoke about an idea with Barbara earlier, and she said she is willing to try this. The one who was my son in that lifetime, Mark, is the one who is Barbara now. She said she was willing for me to release the body to her briefly, and to answer a few questions. My question to her, when we discussed it this afternoon, was, I know she remembers this lifetime from her own present perspective. How did it feel being Mark? What sense of awake-ness, in yourself, in Jeshua, what helped you? That said, I’m briefly going to give the body to Barbara, and then I will take it back again.
(Aaron releases the body to Barbara; she takes a few minutes to settle)
Barbara: Thank you, Aaron. This is an experiment. We’ve never done this before. Aaron says, “You’re on.” Normally when Barbara consciousness is gone it’s pretty hard to come back into being Barbara. But this is not every-day Barbara consciousness; this is the consciousness that can remember this past life, that has worked at length with this past life. There is a softness here.
I/ Mark trusted Jeshua completely. If he said, “Hold the baby,” I would hold the baby. I knew he would never harm me. Clearly, if there were leprosy bacteria they could hurt me. But when I saw this past life, for me it was about seeing how we create whatever we create in ourselves through our fear. Fear brings contraction. When there’s no, I won’t say no fear, but when there’s presence with fear, one does not need to contract around the fear. Then the energy can flow smoothly. When the energy is flowing and open in me, it’s like walking past a field with grapes growing, and I can choose to reach over and pluck a grape, or not. I draw to me that which is wholesome. If I see a rotten grape, I don’t reach over and pluck it. It’s not from awakened mind, it’s just common sense, really. But for the most part we lose that free will choice because we get so lost in the patterns of, “I must do that. I can’t do this.” Fear, contraction, and so forth.
I think because Mark had no fear, because Mark so deeply trusted both Jeshua and my father, Nathaniel, I knew I would come to no harm. That does not mean I would not contract leprosy. If that was for the highest good then that could happen. And I also trusted that. So, it wasn’t, “Ah, I’m safe. I won’t contract leprosy.” It was a much deeper, “The soul is safe.”
Aaron is asking me now: what does this have to do with the awakened state? That’s a hard one, Aaron. You’re putting me on the spot. We didn’t pre-explore that piece of it earlier!
For me, the awakened state is living in the pure heart. It’s the pure heart of Jeshua, of the Buddha, of all the great masters, and it’s our pure heart. It’s the ability to live from that pure heart, and to trust that we’re capable to live from that pure heart. As soon as I say, “Ah, I can’t do that,” then I can’t. But when I know that I can, then I can.
Things may push at me. Here’s something that comes to mind, Aaron. I said we didn’t rehearse this part. When I say “rehearse”, I didn’t know what Aaron was going to be talking about, but he asked me if I would come in and talk about this lifetime with him and Jeshua. In ’04, when I had that very serious accident in the ocean, a near-death experience, unconscious, being tossed about by the waves, knocked to the ocean bottom, broken bones, severe injuries, there was a deep sense of trust. There was a strong, “I choose to live.” I understood I was being given the choice. It was made clear to me in that kind of tunnel of light I could move on and that would be okay. Or I could come back, and there was no guarantee what kind of body I would come back to. But it was my choice: I choose to go; I choose to live. And choosing to live, as I said, no guarantee what kind of body I’ll come back to. But I trust whatever is happening here, because the choice is made with love, is for the highest good. And it’s therefore safe, if I can put it that way, even if very unpleasant.
Aaron, is this all you wanted me to say? He is asking me, so you would not have said at that time, “’Jeshua is an awakened being,’ only that you loved Jeshua completely and trusted him?” That’s right, that’s what I would say. He taught me that love is always the Path, and he demonstrated that Path. Aaron says, enough, he will come back to the body. He says thank you to me.
Aaron: Once again, I am Aaron. With thanks to Barbara for her very fine mediumship skills to shift out of the body and to shift back into her body and then again, allow me back in.
I would not have said in those days that he was awake, either, because I as Nathaniel I had no conscious awareness of the Buddha or other awakened beings. I only knew Jeshua as love. I can just put it that way. I saw him so many times unwilling to take any action that would do harm to another. And yet, with the huge compassion to stand up and say no if Being A was trying to harm Being B. Not to say, “Oh, that’s okay; you can hit him.” — “NO.” What’s the difference between anger and a strength born of truth? “No, you may not harm another.” It doesn’t have to be said with anger. It’s said with infinite compassion, knowing the pain both beings are feeling. This was made easier for Jeshua to know because he did feel anger. He did feel confusion. He did feel fear. He understood these human experiences and he knew how to release them.
The awakened state. I’m going to read you something that I asked Barbara to print out. This comes from her private journals, probably 20 years ago. I am shortening it.
“What is enlightenment? Let us use the Buddha’s river. You cross and find yourself on a new shore. But immediately you realize that you’ve just set foot on land, that there is a whole world beyond. You are nowhere but at the beginning.”
You are all awake. You are nowhere but at the beginning, setting foot on that new shore and ready to walk that land of love. I cherish Jeshua because of his ability to model being love. Never once in all the time I spent with him did I see him act with malice. He acted with strength. Sometimes he acted in a way that might have seemed to be from anger. But it was never with the intention to do harm, only to help others wake up to the results of their own choices, and to make more wholesome choices.
A child had stolen something in the marketplace. The law of those days was that if a thief was caught, his hand would be cut off. This was a young child, 5 or 6 years old. People grabbed the thief, pulled the loaf of bread away. “Thief! Thief!” They were about to strike this child, and some were saying, “Cut off her hand!” Why would a 5 or 6-year-old be alone in the marketplace? Jeshua came in, very clear, very strong, and said, “NO. Let her be. I will pay for the bread.”
After people settled down a bit, he asked her, “Why are you here alone? Where is your family?” And she was scared, a young child. “Why are you taking bread?”
‘“The mother is dead. I live with the father. My father fell off a ladder. He cannot walk. He will starve. I can bring him water, but I have no food for him.”
“Take us to your father.” So, we walked for over a mile, down back roads and paths, and to the house where the father was propped up, just head resting on a cushion, sitting on the ground, covered with a blanket, with a broken leg. This was the best this 6-year-old daughter could manage.
Jeshua then was angry. He turned to the people who had accompanied him and said, “Did no one notice that this girl, whom you must have seen in your village before, was alone? Did no one think to ask where the father was?” And they looked ashamed.
He asked the men, “Who will take care of this man and this child?” A skilled person came forth to help set the leg. They helped to load the man and the daughter on a cart. Someone offered their home and the man and child were brought there, where they would be cared for. Jeshua was careful not to build on their shame, but to empower them. Now that you have made this error, what can you do? How can you make this right? And so many people wanted to make it right, so many stepped up. People came to take care of the man’s sheep in the pasture, his other animals, his gardens. People helped reroof a piece of the house that he had been thatching when he fell and broke his leg. The whole town joined in to take care of this man. It strengthened the town. He did not shame them, although they felt ashamed at first, but used their feelings to give them power and remind them, “You can use this incident to do good.”
What is the nature of the awakened being, as evidenced here? My experience is that Jeshua could see the big picture. He could see the man’s desperation, needing to get the roof thatched before the bad weather closed in. His pain and fear after falling, to the point of sending his daughter to find food. He could see the people’s anger, because they had been taken advantage, time and time again through their lives. “You will not steal from me!” “Ah, but will you give freely?” “Yes.” So helping them to see that they had the choice to give freely, and how it empowered them; how it empowered the whole community. The whole village came together and began to look around them at who else was needy in that village. People began to give gifts to others, gifts of material goods and of time and energy. Everyone began to prosper because there was a free flow of energy and of love. All this based on the giving of one awakened being.
From his awakened state he could see the big picture and understand what was needed, but he did not ever try to push things. He never said, “You should do this, you should do that,” but, “What will be done?” Letting people come forth on their own, from their hearts. Awakened nature has this heart of generosity and of broad seeing.
Now, looking at the clock, it’s close to 8pm. I’m going to pause here for a few minutes, let you stretch, and then invite Jeshua to come in. I’ll step out of the picture and bring in Jeshua…(They arrange for Jeshua to sit on a high stool where he seems most comfortable)
(break; then Jeshua incorporates)
Jeshua: All these entities are jumping in and out of the body! It gets a bit humorous, I suppose… I like to see my audience! (people adjust their seats so Jeshua can see) That’s better. Doesn’t feel right to have my back turned to some of you at the campfire.
You have called me Jeshua. It brings me much joy to be here with you, to share this evening with you. I’m going to touch on Aaron’s topic, but also shift the focus a bit. You come together to celebrate what you think of as my birthday, the birthday of Jeshua, whom you call the Christ. What does Christ mean? An awakened one. You are all awake, all of you. Every single one of you is awake and alive and radiant. You are so beautiful! But you keep yourselves in a dark hole. Why do you want to do that? You are awake! Don’t celebrate my birthday, alone. Fine, celebrate my birthday; it brings me joy that you do so. But celebrate your own birthday too, your own birthday as awake beings. Don’t hold yourself in darkness. It is not what you came for, nor why I came. I came to remind you that you are light and you are love. You are perfect. Not to hold yourselves small and diminish yourselves.
My apologies to those online. (Jeshua has been walking around the room looking into people’s eyes, and not at the camera) I love you all. Thank you for being with us today. My deepest love. My heart is with you.
I will sit down again. This body’s balance is imperfect. Always perfect, and yet imperfect. The human with the distortions, and the essence of you is always perfect. How could it be otherwise?
Aaron asked me earlier, would I speak a bit about what it means to be awake. Aaron is a bit more eloquent than I am. He knows the philosophical language, and so on. But I can speak well from my heart.
When I was a boy, I knew why I had come. I knew before the birth, and I knew from the time the mind was old enough to form thoughts. But it was frustrating for the boy-child, Jeshua. I understood, when I say who I was, not special or different from anyone else, but that I was a son of the Father, a child of the Mother, an awakened being. But here I was in a human body, and though I was previously fully awoken in a prior lifetime and in the outer planes, being here in a human body was hard. There was body pain, there was emotional pain. I would fall and skin my knee and anger would come at the rock on which I fell. Somebody would say harsh words to me and anger would come.
At those times I moved into a kind of separation from myself; Jeshua, the awake being—whose name is not Jeshua; that is only my name in that lifetime—but that one who I was, who I am, and what seemed like a split into the human who felt pain and anger and confusion. I had blessed teachers, my mother and father and others, who did not teach me so much as to remind me: be the heart and love that you are, always. Keep coming back to that love.
There was a story that I believe Aaron has told. When we boys were throwing stones and, not realizing there was a bird there, I threw my stone and hit a bird. I heard the squawk, peep, and saw it fall to the earth. I did not aim at the bird but, nevertheless, I hit the bird. I felt enormous shame. I brought the bird to my mother. What can I do? It appeared to be dead. But there was the tiniest breath of life. And she said, “Hold it, Jeshua. Hold it and love it. See it flying away. Know it as whole and complete.” So, I sat there for several hours, until it had begun to flutter its wings a bit, move its head, breathe more fully. And finally, it soared into the sky. This was an important lesson for me. If you believe you can, you can. Not you but the power that is within you, the divine power. That core of love within you can accomplish anything. I did not save the bird. The memory of it’s true self as love, and the determination to live that love, knowing it could do so, saved the bird.
But so many of you do not believe that, and you keep yourselves into a small, dark place. Aaron spoke last month, I believe, responding to a question, what is sin? He said, let’s call it S-I-N, sinking into negativity. Yes, I came to help people to cease that sinking into negativity. I did not come to save you from sin, I came to remind you of your power to step out of that negativity, to be the power and the light. It is said of me, “He is the light.” You are the light— you, and you, and you, and you. (looking in people’s eyes) You are the light. Why do you doubt?
I believe you doubt because of the heavy emotions. But these heavy emotions are not given to you as burden. These emotions are a gift, because each time you feel fear, greed, anger, pride, jealousy, impatience or any other strong and heavy emotion, it comes as teacher. If you will pause and say, “Thank you. Thank you, teacher,” it changes everything, because it reminds you that the heart, the pure radiance of you is in control, not the ego.
I came to remind you that you are not the ego self. If not the ego self, what are you? What are you? What are you? (looking at people) You know the answer. ( people saying light, love) Light! And Love. Thank you. You do know the answers.
As you celebrate my birthday, please remember you are the light of the world. You are the love of the world. You. It is only your fear that tries to convince you otherwise, and then it diminishes your capacity to be that light and love. Light! Love! You are that! Please be it!
I will spend a few minutes answering questions.
Q: In the story about the baby, why did you hand the baby to Mark and not to anybody else?
Jeshua: I handed the baby to Mark because Nathaniel was my dear friend and I knew he was afraid. And I knew he had to face that fear and come through it. I was not testing him; I was reminding him to come through the test and trust, to open to the innate trust in his heart. It was very beautiful to see the tension in him fade away. It took a few moments, but then he knew. And he did not know, “Oh, Mark is safe. Mark will not contract leprosy.” He knew, “Thy will be done. It is safe. Whatever most needs to happen will happen and will be for the highest good.”
I would add here that it was Nathaniel and Mark that had come up the road with me. Mark was standing beside me. This was also his opportunity to trust and let go. If it had been someone else, there might have been a different scenario to the story. Others?
Q: What is the best way to help people remember they are love and loved, when they are in great fear?
Jeshua: To love them. To cherish them. If judgment arises, to observe judgment arising, whether it is judgment of yourself or of them, and try not to become caught in the story of the judgment. Have compassion for the self for the arising of that judgment. Love returns. It is never gone, just temporarily out of sight, so you can simply ask, in this moment, where is love?
Sometimes it’s very hard to love people. I know in my life as Jeshua there were times when it was hard to love people. I had to remind myself that I had a purpose for being in the incarnation, which was to diminish fear on this earth and to enhance love; and that the choice was always mine, in every moment, to take the words or actions that would thusly enhance love and diminish fear. If I chose otherwise, I was not living my purpose and I was doing harm.
We must be gentle with ourselves. Sometimes there is so much emotion that one lashes out. And then one can only pause, notice what’s happening, and ask forgiveness.
Q: Are you worried about our world? There seem to be so many terrible weapons, and people with so much anger. We’re worried; are you worried?
Jeshua: Am I worried about the world and all the negative things that seem to be happening? Everything plays out as it needs to. You do with Aaron that pushing arms exercise. You push, they push. You push, they push, until you realize it’s time to back up from pushing. To open the energy field, make space for the push and let it flow through.
Your world is like the seesaw on a fulcrum. More and more highly positively polarized beings are taking incarnation. As they do so, more and more negative beings are trying to push the other way. You will keep holding the space until they back off and learn that they cannot push. They cannot force you to sin, to sink into negativity. But fear empowers negativity.
As you understand the power and are willing to hold your power, to live your power, to say no with love, eventually they will back away. I cannot predict how much destruction must come before that happens. It depends on you. If enough of you are able to hold your loving hearts present, then love will prevail. Love will eventually prevail, but it may not prevail on this planet if you destroy the planet. I don’t think you will, but you have free will.
It takes a great deal of love and of faith. Faith is an odd word. Faith in what? Truly faith in the power of love. Faith in the essence of love that is the foundation of this Earth, and the power you all have to bring forth that love, to hold that love in the world. It is not faith in something external to you; it is faith in your own divine essence, and knowing that that same divine essence is in everything, including those you deem to be most negative in the world. They also have the heart of love. The question really is how do we awaken it. It is not always easy to awaken it. So, you must be gently persistent, again and again.
Each time you meet someone else in what seems to be conflict, remember: this is also the awakened one. This is also God/Goddess, Buddha and Christ. This is also a divine and loving being who can wake up and know the truth of its being.
Negative polarity comes to a dead end at the end of 6th density, and then it must reverse itself, all the way back. To move into 2nd, maybe even 1st density positive polarity and start again. Each time you come to what seems to be a conflict with somebody who seems very negative, you are in fact holding open a door for that person. If you can be gentle, patient, loving, but clear and firm, you can open the door, and they may begin to see that they do need to reverse the polarity. There are billions of you capable of doing this kind of inviting. And if enough of you do it with love, everything can reverse itself very quickly.
One more question…
Q: What did you mean by the outer realms or areas? You said you were on the outer realms, and had another enlightened lifetime.
Jeshua: I did not experience enlightenment in the terms that you think of it here on Earth, as a human. I experienced it on light and energy realms, where at first I did not know myself as light, but sank into darkness. The energy that I was diminished itself, or lashed out, and I woke up to the effect that either extreme had, and began to know that I could trust the essence of light that I am and that everything is, and could live that light. That, in a sense, was my awakening. Then I had to test it on material realms. That was long before the Jeshua lifetime. Does that answer your question?
Q: What do we do when we run into, meet evil spirits?
Jeshua: There are no evil spirits. There are entities that are deeply sunken into negativity. On the one hand, you say, “No, I will not dialogue with you. No.” Because you are not yet strong enough to hold that dialogue with what seems to be strong negativity. As you become more mature and stronger and you ask for help, I am always glad to help you, and Aaron and other masters of light. As you become ready, then you can begin to offer increasing loving energy to them. If they’re willing to receive it, fine. If they are not, they will back away. Do not try to do this yourself. Make sure you have support.
Now, as we close here, there is a well-known prayer, very misquoted in your Bible, that is ascribed to me. And I would like to ask you to pray it with me, if it feels appropriate to your own heart. I’m going to say the words, say a line and then ask you to repeat that line with me.
Beloved Father/Mother/Cosmic Birther,
We bless thy name.
May thy kingdom of light and love become manifest on Earth
As it is in the heavenly realms,
and in accordance with the vision of the Infinite Creator
of which we are all a part.
Nourish us this day, Father/Mother/Beloved
With the light and love which is our sustenance.
Forgive us when we descend into dark realms, into negativity and distortion.
Help us deliver ourselves from sinking into such negativity.
Help us to forgive ourselves when we enter into distortion
And to forgive those around us who thusly enter into distortion.
Help us always to know the Light, so we do not become lost in darkness.
Thy kingdom is of love and of light.
Help us to live in that love and light
And to know these as the essence of everything.
Now and forever, Amen.
Thank you for being here with me tonight. And now please go and enjoy your celebration. And my thanks to my brother Aaron. My love to you, I am Jeshua. My love to those out there, as I am out there! I delight in this technology. We’re somewhere interweaving in ether-space— or however you term it.
I’ll release the body to Barbara… (is handed another question from someone on-line)
Are light and love the same thing? Light is an expression of love. Love is the core, the unconditioned essence. It expresses itself in many ways, such as spaciousness, as joy and as light. Those are three primary expressions. Aaron’s new book, The Path of Clear Light – can somebody bring a copy in from the table, please? – Aaron’s new book explains this in clear detail. Love is the heart. That love sometimes is freely expressed and sometimes is bound up. When it’s freely expressed, light expresses with it. This expression is the Path of Clear Light. When the Path is open, when the heart is open, light expresses, and spaciousness and energy. When the heart is shut down, nothing can move through. Aaron’s Path of Clear Light is a beautiful delineation of the path to knowing yourself as light and love, and living from that light and love.
Thank you, I’ll release the body to Barbara. My blessings and love to you all. May all the joys and love in your heart pour forth this season to bring peace and love to all, to yourself, your friends, your neighbors, and those who you consider enemies, too. To all. There are no enemies, there’s only love. I love you. Good evening.
Below are longer versions (2) of Nathaniel and Jeshua at the leper colony from 2010 and 2011 Christmas Stories, from the archives:
Aaron: Accompanying him once, we were walking in the countryside when we heard a cry. He immediately swerved off the main path and up into the hills from whence he heard the cry. He motioned to us that we could stay down there or follow him, as we wished.
Most of us followed him. As we came up into the hill just a short distance, we heard that cry again and again. We knew that there were lepers in these hills, and some of the group stopped as the way got steeper and the cry came closer. I walked with Jeshua.
There was a leper woman giving birth and the baby was stuck in some way, not presenting itself in a way to be eased out. The woman’s mother and other women were with her but nobody knew how to help her.
They were all lepers and leprosy was thought to be contagious so I was afraid. Jeshua turned to me and said, “Nathaniel, you’re a shepherd. You know how to bring forth a lamb that is stuck in the birth canal. Can you help her?” At first I just wanted to flee, I was terrified. Me, touch this leper woman? And then I realized my beloved brother Jeshua would never put me in a situation in which I would be harmed. I had to expand that to the broadest level of harm. If I contracted leprosy, then he knew that that was for my highest good, and it was safe even to become a leper, if that was what was necessary. I also knew he could birth the child. If he was asking me, there was a reason. So at that point there was a release of fear and hesitation. I was given hot water and able to wash, and then able to help by inserting my hand to shift the baby in the right way so that it could be eased out. The mother pushed it out, and it was a beautiful, whole baby.
They invited us to have some hot beverage with them and then we walked back down the path to the rest of our comrades. Before we left, he took so many of their hands and spoke to them, walked around simply extending his love to each one.
Several weeks later, returning past that way, he said to me, “Let’s go up that hill and see how that baby is.” So we climbed up the hill. The others again waited below. As we approached, what I saw astonished me, but it should not have surprised me. The first to greet us was a woman I had noticed before in an advanced stage of leprosy, and her whole body was healing. Others were healing and some fully healed, including the mother of this child.
They asked him, “Did you do this?” They had known who he was, that he was the one called by various names, the Teacher of Love, the Teacher of Righteousness, as he was called. “Did you do this?” He said, “No, your own love and faith did it. I do not heal; God heals. And when you invite healing and trust your own inner capacity to heal, it can happen.”
We spent the night there. They feasted us. It was a joy to hold this baby and to see the radiant mother, literally growing new fingers; her hands, her body, healing. But what was most important to me of that memory was his saying, “No, I did not heal you,” because his work was not to make himself important but to help each human know its own divinity and its own power to co-create wholeness and love. The essence of his message was to empower through pointing out each one’s own divinity.
Aaron: At another time, traveling with him, we heard a voice cry out from the hills above the path on which we walked, and the adult Jeshua being who he was, immediately turned up the narrow path to see from where the cry came. I followed him and there were several others with us. My son Mark was also with us.
We came through some rock crevices and around a bend into a somewhat open area where there were some caves; it was a small leper colony. There was a young woman who was a leper and whose cry we had heard, giving birth. People were trying to help her but nobody really knew what to do as the baby was not presenting itself in the correct way.
Jeshua immediately turned to me. I was a shepherd. I knew how to birth lambs, even lambs that are in a difficult presentation. He said, “Will you help?” I had hung back; I was afraid. I did not want to touch this, what I thought of as, unclean woman. Jeshua asked for hot water, soap, clean cloths. I felt he would never lead me directly into danger so I decided it was safe. Part of me was afraid and the deeper part of me trusted him.
I don’t think he needed me to do what I did. Inviting me, asking me to help was for me, not for him or for the woman giving birth, but it helped me to trust and move past my fear and simply act in service, to not see a leper but simply a woman giving birth. So using my skills I was able to literally reach in and correct the mal-presentation and help draw the baby forth.
He walked around to speak with all the people, took their hands, offered an embrace. They asked us to share their meal. I didn’t want to eat; there was still fear. I was especially afraid for my son. But Jeshua joyfully sat down with them and shared their food. How could I not join him?
It was dark by that time so we slept the night there, saw this new mother in the morning, now comfortable and holding her infant. The infant of course had no sign of leprosy at this point and the mother said to Jeshua, “Please take him. I do not want him to die.” And Jeshua said, “He will not die. See his perfection. He is healthy.”
We went on and several weeks passed as we traveled. Coming back that way on that same trail, Jeshua said, “Let us go and see how they are.” These had been people who were quite sick, maimed, showing all the disfiguration of leprosy. As we came up the path, what greeted us was a fully different picture. There were still some signs of leprosy, people who had lost digits on their hands had not re-grown them, but much of the scarring of the skin and other such signs of the disease were gone. People seemed radiant, much healthier.
This mother came forth with her now 3-week-old baby, held him out to Jeshua. “You’re right,” she said, “he’s perfect.” And her disease was clearly healing– not fully healed but healing. I asked him later, “Did you do this?” because of course he had the capacity to heal. He said, “No, I do not heal. God heals. That of God within each being that comes to know its own perfection, when that perfection is reflected into it by those who see it and speak with it and relate to it, when that knowing of your own perfection is awakened – that allows you to heal. These people were reflecting their own disfigurements and disease to each other, feeling a sense of despair and helplessness. All I did was to remind them, ‘You are divine, you are perfect. Don’t be the leper, be the radiant human being who is at a passing phase in which this disease is manifesting and then let it go.’ ”
So they were all healing. He awakened that in them, he reminded them of their truth. This was the core of his work. When he said such as, “The only way to the Father is through me,” he did not mean through me, this personal man that you see, but through the Christ consciousness, by which I mean simply awakened consciousness, that I AM, Buddha nature, that which is awake. When you know that you are that, how can you think of yourself as anything less? So when he said that, “The way to the Father is through me,” he meant, through knowing this awakened consciousness, this divinity that you are, and living it.
His message has perhaps even greater meaning on Earth now than it had 2000 years ago because you are all within this transition to the expression of divine man, to the highest expression of your being, non-dual consciousness, unconditional love. This is the future of your Earth. I know there are terrible wars and brutality and despair throughout the Earth. You ask me, “Aaron, how can you speak of unconditional love when people are so brutally killing each other and with so much hatred?”
I do not deny that there is strong negative polarity on the earth. That which is strongly negative, it exists. It is not ultimate evil, there is no such thing as ultimate evil, but it is that which is deeply entrenched in negativity or what we might call service to self, deeply contracted. It fears the light, it fears love, and it fights with all its might to hold its own negative contracted self-serving space. It adheres to the old myths: “Only our religion is the path to salvation. No other religion. Only our country. Only our beliefs.” That old archaic consciousness is the voice of fear. The only answer is love, compassion, and kindness. But compassion knows how to say no. It doesn’t say, “Walk all over me; kill me.” It says no, but it doesn’t hate while it says no.
This insight is what your Earth so badly needs right now. All of you are here learning this lesson, how to relate to that which manifests as negative around you, with lovingkindness and compassion that’s able to say no to negativity but without hating the negativity. When enough of you learn how to do this, it’s going to bring about the change you seek. This Earth has the potential to be the Eden that was promised, to be a place of true peace and plenty. That which you seek cannot coexist with the perpetuation of fear and separatist consciousness. Each of you have the work to find this nondual awareness in yourselves. Each of you have 1000 opportunities every week to relate with kindness to negativity, and you’re not going to do it perfectly. Do it as best you can.
 Two versions of this complete story are posted at the end of this transcript