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Dec. 22, 2017 – Private talk with Jeshua

December 22, 2017 Private Talk with Jeshua, excerpt, minutes 14-37

(Jeshua is already incorporated, speaking privately)

Jeshua: …I am always with you. I love you, cherish you, protect you, guide you. I will never leave you.

Now, I ask you to have courage, because what you came into the incarnation to do is hard. It is to help alleviate suffering from beings who are blind. They keep bashing themselves into brick walls and falling into holes, and will not accept the fact that they could end the blindness by opening their eyes.

Picture a whole world of people who are not literally blind but believe they are blind, and walk around harming themselves and harming others. Because they’re used to bashing into things that are (inaudible), they walk around with a knife in front of them. And so if they walk into somebody else, they stab the other. Constantly wounding each other, wounding themselves. And then there are those very cherished ones who have had the courage to come in as humans with their eyes open, not yet fully awake but with the eyes open, and to say, “I choose to come into this heavy density planet to help others learn to open their eyes.”

You are doing this through your dharma practice and intention to teach, to share the dharma, whether it’s in a group or just one-on-one… there are so many ways in which you are holding to that intention. But it takes enormous courage.

I know Aaron asked me to come in for two reasons. One is because you said you don’t feel me with you, and I want you to feel me with you. The other, I was not only born with my eyes open but fully awake. Imagine my despair when I saw so many people staggering around with their eyes closed and wounding each other. And our Father had asked me to come and help them learn that they need not wound each other.

I felt enormous despair at a certain phase of my life. Before I began my teaching, I wandered for some time in the desert, as the story goes, asking, “Can I do this? Won’t I do more harm than good? Might I not destroy with my power? I don’t know how to do this. Father, show me. I am lost. I feel danger. I am afraid.” And I knew my power. And I knew my human capability to open to anger, not hatred; never hatred, but anger. And I knew my power to destroy through that anger. And I wanted to run away. I felt, “I cannot do this.” And then I knew I had to try, because it is what the Father asked me to do. When I say ‘Father’— Father, Mother, Beloved, what the Divine asked of me, and what I had agreed to do, why I had come.

Not as much is asked of you, daughter, but to keep your heart open and to know that you have chosen wisely. That you are surrounded by loving guides— myself, the Mother, Aaron, but also your own very beautiful personal guides, very high-level guidance. What is asked of you is to keep your heart open and be mindful. Just that. And when the heart closes, and it will, to pause and know the heart is closing. “Oh, right here with the closed heart, where is the open heart?”

Aaron’s new book speaks beautifully of this, how to come back to the open heart, to the light that you are. I cannot ask you not to doubt, only to know that doubt is a trick of the mind. To pause and remember, and use Aaron’s delightful, “Is that so?” And hold the stone (crystal) and ask Jeshua, “Help me. Guide me, here.” And to turn to the Divine, the Infinite Creator, out of which we all have emerged, and remember that you are love. You are created in love and in light. And you can never be less than that. You can only diminish that by pulling the armor around the self. But you can never be less than the light and love that you are.

(continuing later)

I am Jeshua ben Joseph, a son of our Father. And I greet you, sister, (name), a daughter of our Father, and ask you to remember that you are my sister. I’ve called you daughter at times, but you are both. You are my sister, as all beings are my brothers and sisters. And that you have the power to love, and the power to destroy. The extraordinary power to love has been entrusted to you because it is known that you have the understanding not to destroy. Every human, as they awaken, finds that power in themselves, to love and create or to destroy. You are a highly positively polarized being. You will not destroy. You are not poisonous. I know it’s a lot of power to carry. Think of it as a sacred trust by ones who are a bit older and wiser than you. And know that you are ready to carry this power of love, and to carry the pain that comes with it.

Before I go, let me share one more story here. Aaron tells stories of me in his Christmas stories. When I travelled and saw people beating each other, harming each other, being cruel to each other, saw something as simple as a starving child, a young child in the marketplace eyeing the food on the table, literally starving and reaching for a small, a fruit that had worms in it, or a piece of bread that was a bit burned, looking at the shopkeeper, not daring to ask, “May I have it?”, just reaching. And the shopkeeper might hit him, sometimes with a stick. “Get away!” It tore my heart apart, because that shopkeeper came to learn generosity and love, and he seemed to be incapable of doing it, he had so much fear and greed. I would sometimes sit and cry. I would cry out to the Father and ask, “What can I do?” And I was told, “Love him. Love the shopkeeper.”

On one such occasion, I returned and that same child was still wandering around the marketplace. You could see his ribs sticking out, he was so skinny. Perhaps 6 years old. I came to him and took him by the hand and went up to the shopkeeper, smiled at the shopkeeper, and said to him, “This small child is very hungry, and I have some coins. How much would it be for a piece of bread, for an apple?” He gave me a figure, an exorbitant figure for that amount of food, because he was eyeing the boy angrily, who had tried to steal from him. He said to me, “I will not sell food to you for him. He is a thief.” I said, “Perhaps he is a thief because he is hungry. Nevertheless, I will pay you for the food. How much do you want for it?” He gave me a figure three times what this should have cost.

I said, “We both know that that is an exorbitant amount of money for this food. But here. But I have one condition: that you come around here, kneel down on the ground and hand it to him.” “No!” “Well, I’ll find another shopkeeper then. But the offer is still open: three times what the food is worth, what you could sell it for to anyone else. All that is asked of you is to come around and kneel down and hand it to him.” I had coached the boy before and told him what I was going to do, and asked him, “When he gives it to you, can you look in his eyes and say, ‘Thank you’?” He was terrified, but he said he would do it.

So, our shopkeeper friend, his greed got the better of him. He came around— he had picked an apple with some wormholes and a slightly burnt piece of bread. I did not correct him and ask for the best. He came around. He knelt down. He was eye-level with the boy. A kind of grudging, “Here,” and he looked into the boy’s eyes. And the boy said, “Thank you. I have been so hungry. But I will take it home and share half with my younger sister.”

Something broke open in this man’s heart. I had hoped that it would, but I could not make it happen. He looked in the boy’s eyes and tears formed. He reached out and pulled out another piece of bread and apple, these perfect and beautiful! He said, “Here’s one for your sister, also.” He asked the boy, “Where do you get your food? Where are your parents?” “My father has died and my mother right now is very sick, so there is no food in our home. I find what I can for myself and my little sister.”

The shopkeeper looked at me. He did not know me, but he somehow seemed to trust me. He said, “Will you stay here with my stand while I go off with this boy? I want to see his home.” I agreed. So, I was not there at the home and I don’t know exactly what happened, but the boy took him home. He saw it was just as the boy described. The mother, she had not broken her leg but perhaps sprained it badly. She could not walk. She was thin. She was sick. The home was a very poor home, even had the mother been well. But it was not well-tended because the mother could not walk and the father was dead. He said to her, “Sister, what happened to your husband?” “He was killed.” Not sure exactly the circumstances, but an accident of some sort; not murdered, but an accident, about 3 months previous to this time. “And how have you survived?” “When I can walk, I can do some weaving.” She showed him the very beautiful weaving that she did. “But it is too much pain, I cannot go to the marketplace, and my son is too young to do it.”

He said, “Daughter, you stay home and weave, and each week I will stop here and pick up your weaving to sell in the marketplace. I will not charge you anything for it. I will sell it from my bread and fruit stand. I bake the bread, and I have an orchard with abundance. Your son may come to me any time for this bread and fruit, but bread and fruit is not enough to survive on.” He told the son to come with him and back to his home, and gave him a basket of eggs. And he said, “Come back when you need more, and I will try to find other food for you.”

So, this act of trust in this man’s capacity to open his heart, and my willingness to meet his greed so that he would connect with the boy— I didn’t manipulate this, I just trusted that if he made direct contact with the boy and could see him not just as a thief but as a human child, I trusted the capacity of his heart to open – these acts of love opened the heart’s door.

But when I first saw him hit the boy with the stick, when the boy reached for food, I felt so much rage at this man! I wanted to destroy him! I wanted to take his table and throw everything into the dirt! I wanted to hit him. I had to take time to tame my rage, and to ask, “How do I help this man, and how do I release my own rage?” I was human. Anger still arose. Because I was awakened, I would never enact that anger. But I was human, and anger arose. —When I say I would never enact that anger, I would never enact it in a way to literally harm another sentient being.

The story, I hope, demonstrates the power that you have to work with your own anger, and to touch the world with kindness, one human at a time. Perhaps sometimes it will be 3 or 4, or 300 or 400. But basically, it’s heart to heart. That is how we transform the world into love and light. Invite that light and love to come forth. You have that power. Never forget it. And it is why you came into the incarnation. And if sometimes you fail, that’s okay. No one will condemn you. If the task seems too big and you need to back away, that’s okay, and no one will condemn you. You are not bad because of that.

You are loved. And help will be with you with each step. If you say it’s too much, we will simply hold and hug you until you’re ready to try again. Will you trust me with that thought?

I release the body to Aaron. My blessing to you, my daughter, sister, beloved. My blessings.

(Aaron reincorporates, private session not transcribed)

The Path of Clear Light

The Path of Clear Light
by Aaron expressed through by Barbara Brodsky

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Barbara Brodsky is a dharma teacher who leads meditation retreats and spiritual inquiry workshops worldwide. She is also the channel for the spirit, Aaron, and, with him, has offered personal spiritual direction sessions, classes, meditation retreats and group workshops since 1989.

Foreword from Barbara

Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.(1)

Midway upon the journey of our life
I found myself within a forest dark,
For the straightforward pathway had been lost.

Ah me! how hard a thing it is to say
What was this forest savage, rough, and stern,

***

I cannot well repeat how there I entered,
So full was I of slumber at the moment
In which I had abandoned the true way.

I first read these lines from Dante’s Inferno at age 18, in an advanced Italian literature class on The Divine Comedy, and they were my awakening to the noble truth of suffering. Not that I was unfamiliar with suffering before that, but I had tried to deny it existed, or blamed myself for it, questioning,

“What’s wrong with me?” as so many of us do. We all find ourselves in that dark woods, some early in life, some later on. Most of us arrive slumbering. Now here was a revered author speaking of the reality of suffering, its causes and a path out.

When I met Aaron I was suffering acutely from the new experience of deafness and my great aversion to it. Gently, Aaron led me on a journey, far more profound than Dante had decades earlier, because Aaron reached my heart, not just my brain.

In this book, Aaron presents the main path on which he had led me for the past 30 years. He calls it The Path of Clear Light. It is my hope that this short but profound book is as life-changing for you as Aaron’s walk with me on this journey has been for me.

May this book be a blessing to all who open it’s covers.

Barbara

(1)MLA. Dante Alighieri, 1265=1321. The Divine Comedy of Dante Alighieri: Inferno, Purgatory, Paradise, New York: The Union Library Association, 1935.

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As I go through the Aaron material, I am struck by its sophistication and its lightness, its clarity and its beauty.
  – Ram Dass, author of Be Here Now, and many other books

The voice of Aaron is a vessel of wisdom, arising directly from a deeply compassionate awake presence. Reading these teachings will turn you towards the radiance of love of your own awakening heartmind.
– Tara Brach, author of Radical Acceptance and True Refuge

Clear dharma; living non-duality.
– Lama Surya Das, spiritual teacher, author of Awakening the Buddha Within and other books

Interweaving teachings and experiences from several traditions, Barbara Brodsky and Aaron open us to new dimensions of understanding and dharma. It’s a fascinating and illuminating read.
– Joseph Goldstein, author of Mindfulness: A Practical Guide to Awakening 

For many years I’ve been moved by the wisdom that flows from Aaron and Barbara. Based in solid dharma, their message is profound, timeless and filled with unconditional love. Highly recommended.
– James Baraz, dharma teacher in the Theravadin tradition and author of Awakening Joy: 10 Steps That Will Put You on the Road to Real Happiness

With the clarity and kindness of a deeply wise spiritual friend, Aaron illuminates a path for revealing the truth of ourselves as loving, luminous beings. Reading through these pages naturally moves us to rest in the spaciousness and radiance of a boundless heart, coming to know it as our deepest nature – our true home. It’s rare to find this level of depth in a book so accessible.
– Aura Glaser, author of A Call to Compassion

I have heard and practiced Aaron’s teachings for many years. They are filled with deep wisdom and love. This book is a clear and concise culmination of his teachings on the simultaneous experience of relative and ultimate reality and the practice of Clear Light.
– John Orr, guiding teacher of New Hope Sangha, Durham, NC

 

 

2017 Dec. 20 – Evenings with Aaron – Christmas Stories

Aaron, Jeshua, and Barbara on the Awakened State; The Lord’s Prayer with Jeshua
Property of Deep Spring Center: https://deepspring.org/

Barbara: I’ve been introducing myself… The first part was not recorded, meeting Aaron. People began to come to me and ask, “Can we talk to him?” I said, “Sure; if you can hear him, you can talk to him.” Well, other people said, “I can’t hear him.” How do I do this? Aaron said, “Just listen the way you do when I’m talking to you and say out loud what you’re hearing.” Somebody then said to me, “Oh, you’re channeling.” What’s channeling? This was very new to me.

Everything he was teaching me for myself made so much sense, and people said what he was saying to them made sense. So gradually I began to trust it. — I trusted Aaron; what I didn’t trust was my own capacity to get it clear; to not tilt it slightly based on my own ego or fear or ideas. But gradually I began to trust that ability too.

This is back in 1989, in the living room of our house. People coming twice a week. One night a week for meditation class; at first, 4 or 5 of us, then 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 20! And people came one night a week, Wednesday nights, to hear Aaron. In December of 1989, with us gathered in my living room, Aaron said, “Since I was alive during Jeshua’s life, I would like to tell you some stories about what I knew of him.” That was our first Christmas Stories. We’ve been doing it annually ever since.

I find these stories beautiful. A friend, Bill Altork, put together a very lovely book of parts of the stories. Some of these stories are 10, 15 pages, but he’s extracted 2 or 3 pages and put these extracts together into a book called 47 Stories of Jesus. We have some for sale out there.

I love these stories and what they bring up for people. They help me to know Jeshua as a human being and not just the Jeshua of the Bible stories. They make him very real for me, very loving.

Fast forward. The past 15 years I’ve been a medium for other entities, not just Aaron, and among these entities, Jeshua, who has said he will also speak tonight. He will join us and share his take on what Aaron is teaching. It would be lovely if they could talk side by side, but only one can be in my body at a time. So, we’ll let them change places as needed.

That’s the introduction. Deep Spring Center meets here regularly. This is Interfaith Center. We’re blessed to be permitted to use the Center. Dave Bell founded the Center in— what year, David? 1998. Thank you, and thank you and Interfaith Center for sharing the place with us. It’s given us a wonderful home, with a wonderful energy, and we’re grateful.

I can’t think of anything else I need to say. For those who are interested in Deep Spring Center’s programs, please Google deepspring.org

That said, I’m just going to move myself out of the way and invite Aaron to come in.

Aaron: My blessings and love to you all. I am Aaron. What a joy to see all your faces! I don’t see the faces up there, but I imagine there are people there, yes? (yes) My love to all of you. We truly have an international audience here. People across the U.S. and Canada… We’ve had people in recent months from China, from Dubai, from all over. It’s such a delight to be able to share these teachings.

So here we are sitting by my campfire. It is a comfortable winter evening, but the fire feels good and we’re all gathered in close to hear campfire stories; to hear stories of my beloved brother and friend Jeshua. He has promised us he will put in a personal appearance later tonight.

Each month we do, I don’t know the technical word for it but making available something called Dharma Dialogue, a 20 minute sharing from me that’s on the web site and available to anybody online. In the December Dialogue I spoke about the idea of awakening, that we are all here to awaken, and yet at another level we are already awake. We all have the nature of awakened mind, but it has not yet fully become manifest. So, you are here in incarnation to help manifest that nature and bring it out into the world.

Some beings, like Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, were born not yet awake and awakened in the incarnation. He’s a wonderful model for us of the possibility to fully awaken. Some beings like Jeshua came here fully awake, and yet he was still human. He still knew body pain, knew emotions, but he did not need to enact them.

I said in the December Dialogue that I would speak a bit about my experiences with Jeshua as an awakened being. In some of the stories you’ve heard, after the told story drew to a close and I was still sitting there with Jeshua, I had the opportunity as I walked with him to say, “How did you do that? What was happening for you” as this or that event occurred? At that point I was not yet fully awake, but he gave me great insight into the nature of this awakened mind.

What do I mean by awake? Knowing the true self. Knowing who you really are, beyond the ego beyond all inner and outer forms. Knowing the radiant essence of yourself. The rest is clothing. It’s beautiful clothing, or sometimes it’s angry and confused clothing. But when you peel it all off, there is an essence, the radiant spirit, that you have forgotten in the busyness involved with all the externals.

When you live from that essence, it is very different because the deepest truth— not your truth but THE truth, the truth of God/Goddess, the truth of love, can come forth. When it comes forth there is nothing more powerful. Love.

Let’s begin with a story that I have told many times. A group of us were walking down a road with Jeshua. There was a man ahead of us with a very overburdened donkey. He was beating the donkey, who could barely lift his feet. He was tottering, falling to his knees, beaten and staggering up again. I could see that Jeshua became angry. Let me phrase that differently. I could see that tension was arising in Jeshua but not being expressed as judgment or hostility.

He approached the man and said, “Your donkey cannot carry that. We’re going your way. Let us take these burdens. We can all carry them, and you can walk with your donkey to the nearest village.” The man was alarmed at first. He thought we were thieves and we would take all these things and run off. “No, we would walk right here next to you. But this poor donkey is going to die on the road here, and it hurts my heart. Let us help.” So we carried the burdens, a half dozen of us, each laden down with something.

We reached the nearest village. The man walked up what would be a tavern, tied the donkey’s reins around a post, and ran inside. Said, “Just drop the things here.” Again, I saw anger come up in Jeshua. He untied the donkey and brought it into the nearest stable, made sure it had food and water. He very gently tended to the donkey’s wounds, wounds the donkey had received from his beating, and left the donkey fed, comfortable, warm, and with great relief from its pain.

That’s the story that I’ve told you so far, how Jeshua did not enact his anger on this man, which would have scared the man away, which would have just led him to beat the donkey more. But could say, “That’s enough. Let us help.” Because of Jeshua’s great presence and kindness, that help could be accepted. So Jeshua was a master of his emotions. He didn’t let his anger get in the way. I repeat, he was human, even though he was enlightened. So, if conditions were present, anger might arise. But he saw anger as energy, not as something that would be used to do harm to others. Just anger.

Afterward we sat around our fire, and I asked, “Jeshua, what were you thinking? What were you feeling?” He said, “I almost lost my temper. I was feeling so much rage at his beating of this poor beast. So much sadness that people can be so self-centered and hateful.” But he went on to say, “I remember that this is why we have all come into the incarnation. We have come to watch this kind of anger, the anger I felt, the anger the man felt, and to transmute anger to compassion. To use that anger as energy that could bring forth love. And so, from the force of my anger, the power of my anger, I was able to offer all of us to carry the donkey’s burden. To get him safely to a stable. To take care of him. And in this way, to bring greater Light into the world”

“What will happen tomorrow, Jeshua, when the man again attempts to load the donkey?”

“Ahh!” he said, “I have bought the donkey! The donkey will accompany us tomorrow, and he will have no burdens.”

“But won’t the man just buy another donkey?”

“There are no more donkeys available in town. I have asked. He will be forced to sell his wares here, or, to find several donkeys, which may somehow appear when he is ready to distribute the load on 4 or 5 appropriate donkeys.”

I said, “Jeshua, are you saying you can make that happen?”

He said, “No, not I. Love will make it happen. When you hold yourself with the heart of love, and choose to manifest in accordance with love,” he said, “you could call it God, the Father, Goddess, Love, whatever you wish, it will support the arising of what is needed when it is needed, when you move fully resonant with that need. But when there is anger trying to push and manipulate, then the situation just crashes. Then nothing wholesome can happen.”

He did not say, “I am an enlightened Master and I know this.” He just spoke from his heart. He never once, in all our time together, said to me, “I am an enlightened Master.” Only, “I speak from the heart of the Father, the heart of Love. I speak from the heart of the Mother. I am Love.” He knew this without any doubt. The question for him, I think, was how to help others know it within themselves too. He understood that pushing people, forcing people with anger, with fear, trying to coerce people, would only scare them more into the ego self and distance them from this awakened core. How do we help people find that awakened core and live from it? How do we find that awakened core and live from it? It is not so hard. But it takes a real commitment. It takes knowing your highest intention to do no harm but only good. And that you do have the power to choose in that way, to choose not to harm.

Another story, and here perhaps we’re going to do something a little unusual and see several sides of the story. A few of you thinking, “Aaron, no new stories tonight?” Well, after 30 years of telling these stories, how many new stories can I have of Jeshua? But we can go deeper, and you’re ready to go deeper. If you want those thirty years of stories, look in the book 47 Stories for the brief version. Look in the Deep Spring archives’ transcripts for the full stories. There are three decades of them.

Once again, several of us were walking down a road with Jeshua, in a valley with hills rising on either side. We heard cries—the road going straight, a pathway leading up into the hill, and cries of pain coming from up there. Jeshua said, “I will go. Come with me if you wish.” He looked directly at me as he said that, so it was clear to me that he wished me to come, but he was also leaving the choice to me.

I followed him, and my son, Mark, was with me, a boy of about 12 years. As we climbed the hill and around a bend, a half mile, we found ourselves in a leper colony. Immediately I was terrified, because I had been taught that leprosy was highly contagious. Jeshua was completely comfortable. We walked in. The cries were coming from a woman in childbirth, but the baby was not presenting itself correctly. They were not able to bring the baby forth, so she was in much pain, and the midwife was not able to help.

Jeshua turned to me, knowing I was a shepherd. My name was Nathaniel. He said, “Nathaniel, you know how to help a birth. Will you see what you can do?” And he left it open for me to say, “I don’t think I can. I know how to birth sheep, not humans.” But he looked deep into my eyes, and it was clear that he knew I could do this, if I could step beyond my fear.

So, really, a sheep and a human birth are not all that different. I was able to reach my hand in and untangle the way the baby was presenting, literally to draw it out. One foot was tangled around its head; I pushed the foot back so the head flowed out, and the baby was born. I’m sure Jeshua was able to help release some of the woman’s  pain, and that helped the smooth birth. Once I began, I was no longer afraid of leprosy. It was simply a woman who was suffering, a baby who would die. So, the baby was born, and I took the baby and handed it to Jeshua, who very gently wrapped it and handed it to Mark.

Fear came up. It’s okay for me; if I get leprosy, I get leprosy. But this is my beloved son, and he’s handing my son a baby, born of a woman with leprosy. What will happen to my son? Fear! Fear! And then the recognition: of course, Jeshua would not do anything to harm my son. And then another thought: but maybe it’s some kind of test? Who knows? And finally, surrender: whatever is for the highest good, I will trust this situation. And I smiled at Mark. All of this happening in an instant, all these running thoughts. I smiled at Mark and said, “Take the baby.”

That’s the basis of the story. There’s more in the archives, what happens afterward. A beautiful story, and I believe you can find it online[1]. When this is transcribed, I’ll try to find the rest of the story and piece it in. I don’t want to waste our time here tonight giving the rest of the story I’ve already told, because our focus tonight is a bit different.

I spoke about an idea with Barbara earlier, and she said she is willing to try this. The one who was my son in that lifetime, Mark, is the one who is Barbara now. She said she was willing for me to release the body to her briefly, and to answer a few questions. My question to her, when we discussed it this afternoon, was, I know she remembers this lifetime from her own present perspective. How did it feel being Mark? What sense of awake-ness, in yourself, in Jeshua, what helped you? That said, I’m briefly going to give the body to Barbara, and then I will take it back again.

(Aaron releases the body to Barbara; she takes a few minutes to settle)

Barbara: Thank you, Aaron. This is an experiment. We’ve never done this before. Aaron says, “You’re on.” Normally when Barbara consciousness is gone it’s pretty hard to come back into being Barbara. But this is not every-day Barbara consciousness; this is the consciousness that can remember this past life, that has worked at length with this past life. There is a softness here.

I/ Mark trusted Jeshua completely. If he said, “Hold the baby,” I would hold the baby. I knew he would never harm me. Clearly, if there were leprosy bacteria they could hurt me. But when I saw this past life, for me it was about seeing how we create whatever we create in ourselves through our fear. Fear brings contraction. When there’s no, I won’t say no fear, but when there’s presence with fear, one does not need to contract around the fear. Then the energy can flow smoothly. When the energy is flowing and open in me, it’s like walking past a field with grapes growing, and I can choose to reach over and pluck a grape, or not. I draw to me that which is wholesome. If I see a rotten grape, I don’t reach over and pluck it. It’s not from awakened mind, it’s just common sense, really. But for the most part we lose that free will choice because we get so lost in the patterns of, “I must do that. I can’t do this.” Fear, contraction, and so forth.

I think because Mark had no fear, because Mark so deeply trusted both Jeshua and my father, Nathaniel, I knew I would come to no harm. That does not mean I would not contract leprosy. If that was for the highest good then that could happen. And I also trusted that. So, it wasn’t, “Ah, I’m safe. I won’t contract leprosy.” It was a much deeper, “The soul is safe.”

Aaron is asking me now: what does this have to do with the awakened state? That’s a hard one, Aaron. You’re putting me on the spot. We didn’t pre-explore that piece of it earlier!

For me, the awakened state is living in the pure heart. It’s the pure heart of Jeshua, of the Buddha, of all the great masters, and it’s our pure heart. It’s the ability to live from that pure heart, and to trust that we’re capable to live from that pure heart. As soon as I say, “Ah, I can’t do that,” then I can’t. But when I know that I can, then I can.

Things may push at me. Here’s something that comes to mind, Aaron. I said we didn’t rehearse this part. When I say “rehearse”, I didn’t know what Aaron was going to be talking about, but he asked me if I would come in and talk about this lifetime with him and Jeshua. In ’04, when I had that very serious accident in the ocean, a near-death experience, unconscious, being tossed about by the waves, knocked to the ocean bottom, broken bones, severe injuries, there was a deep sense of trust. There was a strong, “I choose to live.” I understood I was being given the choice. It was made clear to me in that kind of tunnel of light I could move on and that would be okay. Or I could come back, and there was no guarantee what kind of body I would come back to. But it was my choice: I choose to go; I choose to live. And choosing to live, as I said, no guarantee what kind of body I’ll come back to. But I trust whatever is happening here, because the choice is made with love, is for the highest good. And it’s therefore safe, if I can put it that way, even if very unpleasant.

Aaron, is this all you wanted me to say? He is asking me, so you would not have said at that time, “’Jeshua is an awakened being,’ only that you loved Jeshua completely and trusted him?”  That’s right, that’s what I would say. He taught me that love is always the Path, and he demonstrated that Path. Aaron says, enough, he will come back to the body. He says thank you to me.

(Aaron incorporates)

Aaron: Once again, I am Aaron. With thanks to Barbara for her very fine mediumship skills to shift out of the body and to shift back into her body and then again, allow me back in.

I would not have said in those days that he was awake, either, because I as Nathaniel I had no conscious awareness of the Buddha or other awakened beings. I only knew Jeshua as love. I can just put it that way. I saw him so many times unwilling to take any action that would do harm to another. And yet, with the huge compassion to stand up and say no if Being A was trying to harm Being B. Not to say, “Oh, that’s okay; you can hit him.” — “NO.” What’s the difference between anger and a strength born of truth? “No, you may not harm another.” It doesn’t have to be said with anger. It’s said with infinite compassion, knowing the pain both beings are feeling. This was made easier for Jeshua to know because he did feel anger. He did feel confusion. He did feel fear. He understood these human experiences and he knew how to release them.

The awakened state. I’m going to read you something that I asked Barbara to print out. This comes from her private journals, probably 20 years ago. I am shortening it.

“What is enlightenment? Let us use the Buddha’s river. You cross and find yourself on a new shore. But immediately you realize that you’ve just set foot on land, that there is a whole world beyond. You are nowhere but at the beginning.”

You are all awake. You are nowhere but at the beginning, setting foot on that new shore and ready to walk that land of love. I cherish Jeshua because of his ability to model being love. Never once in all the time I spent with him did I see him act with malice. He acted with strength. Sometimes he acted in a way that might have seemed to be from anger. But it was never with the intention to do harm, only to help others wake up to the results of their own choices, and to make more wholesome choices.

A child had stolen something in the marketplace. The law of those days was that if a thief was caught, his hand would be cut off. This was a young child, 5 or 6 years old. People grabbed the thief, pulled the loaf of bread away. “Thief! Thief!” They were about to strike this child, and some were saying, “Cut off her hand!” Why would a 5 or 6-year-old be alone in the marketplace? Jeshua came in, very clear, very strong, and said, “NO. Let her be. I will pay for the bread.”

After people settled down a bit, he asked her, “Why are you here alone? Where is your family?” And she was scared, a young child. “Why are you taking bread?”

‘“The mother is dead. I live with the father. My father fell off a ladder. He cannot walk. He will starve. I can bring him water, but I have no food for him.”
“Take us to your father.” So, we walked for over a mile, down back roads and paths, and to the house where the father was propped up, just head resting on a cushion, sitting on the ground, covered with a blanket, with a broken leg. This was the best this 6-year-old daughter could manage.

Jeshua then was angry. He turned to the people who had accompanied him and said, “Did no one notice that this girl, whom you must have seen in your village before, was alone? Did no one think to ask where the father was?” And they looked ashamed.

He asked the men, “Who will take care of this man and this child?” A skilled person came forth to help set the leg. They helped to load the man and the daughter on a cart. Someone offered their home and the man and child were brought there, where they would be cared for. Jeshua was careful not to build on their shame, but to empower them. Now that you have made this error, what can you do? How can you make this right? And so many people wanted to make it right, so many stepped up. People came to take care of the man’s sheep in the pasture, his other animals, his gardens. People helped reroof a piece of the house that he had been thatching when he fell and broke his leg. The whole town joined in to take care of this man. It strengthened the town. He did not shame them, although they felt ashamed at first, but used their feelings to give them power and remind them, “You can use this incident to do good.”

What is the nature of the awakened being, as evidenced here? My experience is that Jeshua could see the big picture. He could see the man’s desperation, needing to get the roof thatched before the bad weather closed in. His pain and fear after falling, to the point of sending his daughter to find food. He could see the people’s anger, because they had been taken advantage, time and time again through their lives. “You will not steal from me!” “Ah, but will you give freely?” “Yes.” So helping them to see that they had the choice to give freely, and how it empowered them; how it empowered the whole community. The whole village came together and began to look around them at who else was needy in that village. People began to give gifts to others, gifts of material goods and of time and energy. Everyone began to prosper because there was a free flow of energy and of love. All this based on the giving of one awakened being.

From his awakened state he could see the big picture and understand what was needed, but he did not ever try to push things. He never said, “You should do this, you should do that,” but, “What will be done?” Letting people come forth on their own, from their hearts. Awakened nature has this heart of generosity and of broad seeing.

Now, looking at the clock, it’s close to 8pm. I’m going to pause here for a few minutes, let you stretch, and then invite Jeshua to come in. I’ll step out of the picture and bring in Jeshua…(They arrange for Jeshua to sit on a high stool where he seems most comfortable)

(break; then Jeshua incorporates)

Jeshua: All these entities are jumping in and out of the body! It gets a bit humorous, I suppose… I like to see my audience!  (people adjust their seats so Jeshua can see) That’s better. Doesn’t feel right to have my back turned to some of you at the campfire.

You have called me Jeshua. It brings me much joy to be here with you, to share this evening with you. I’m going to touch on Aaron’s topic, but also shift the focus a bit. You come together to celebrate what you think of as my birthday, the birthday of Jeshua, whom you call the Christ. What does Christ mean? An awakened one. You are all awake, all of you. Every single one of you is awake and alive and radiant. You are so beautiful! But you keep yourselves in a dark hole. Why do you want to do that? You are awake! Don’t celebrate my birthday, alone. Fine, celebrate my birthday; it brings me joy that you do so. But celebrate your own birthday too, your own birthday as awake beings. Don’t hold yourself in darkness. It is not what you came for, nor why I came. I came to remind you that you are light and you are love. You are perfect. Not to hold yourselves small and diminish yourselves.

My apologies to those online. (Jeshua has been walking around the room looking into people’s eyes, and not at the camera) I love you all. Thank you for being with us today. My deepest love. My heart is with you.

I will sit down again. This body’s balance is imperfect. Always perfect, and yet imperfect. The human with the distortions, and the essence of you is always perfect. How could it be otherwise?

Aaron asked me earlier, would I speak a bit about what it means to be awake. Aaron is a bit more eloquent than I am. He knows the philosophical language, and so on. But I can speak well from my heart.

When I was a boy, I knew why I had come. I knew before the birth, and I knew from the time the mind was old enough to form thoughts. But it was frustrating for the boy-child, Jeshua. I understood, when I say who I was, not special or different from anyone else, but that I was a son of the Father, a child of the Mother, an awakened being. But here I was in a human body, and though I was previously fully awoken in a prior lifetime and in the outer planes, being here in a human body was hard. There was body pain, there was emotional pain. I would fall and skin my knee and anger would come at the rock on which I fell. Somebody would say harsh words to me and anger would come.

At those times I moved into a kind of separation from myself; Jeshua, the awake being—whose name is not Jeshua; that is only my name in that lifetime—but that one who I was, who I am, and what seemed like a split into the human who felt pain and anger and confusion. I had blessed teachers, my mother and father and others, who did not teach me so much as to remind me: be the heart and love that you are, always. Keep coming back to that love.

There was a story that I believe Aaron has told. When we boys were throwing stones and, not realizing there was a bird there, I threw my stone and hit a bird. I heard the squawk, peep, and saw it fall to the earth. I did not aim at the bird but, nevertheless, I hit the bird. I felt enormous shame. I brought the bird to my mother. What can I do? It appeared to be dead. But there was the tiniest breath of life. And she said, “Hold it, Jeshua. Hold it and love it. See it flying away. Know it as whole and complete.” So, I sat there for several hours, until it had begun to flutter its wings a bit, move its head, breathe more fully. And finally, it soared into the sky. This was an important lesson for me. If you believe you can, you can. Not you but the power that is within you, the divine power. That core of love within you can accomplish anything. I did not save the bird. The memory of it’s true self as love, and the determination to live that love, knowing it could do so, saved the bird.

But so many of you do not believe that, and you keep yourselves into a small, dark place. Aaron spoke last month, I believe, responding to a question, what is sin? He said, let’s call it S-I-N, sinking into negativity. Yes, I came to help people to cease that sinking into negativity. I did not come to save you from sin, I came to remind you of your power to step out of that negativity, to be the power and the light. It is said of me, “He is the light.” You are the light— you, and you, and you, and you. (looking in  people’s eyes) You are the light. Why do you doubt?

I believe you doubt because of the heavy emotions. But these heavy emotions are not given to you as burden. These emotions are a gift, because each time you feel fear, greed, anger, pride, jealousy, impatience or any other strong and heavy emotion, it comes as teacher. If you will pause and say, “Thank you. Thank you, teacher,” it changes everything, because it reminds you that the heart, the pure radiance of you is in control, not the ego.

I came to remind you that you are not the ego self. If not the ego self, what are you? What are you? What are you? (looking at people) You know the answer. ( people saying light, love) Light! And Love. Thank you. You do know the answers.

As you celebrate my birthday, please remember you are the light of the world. You are the love of the world. You. It is only your fear that tries to convince you otherwise, and then it diminishes your capacity to be that light and love. Light! Love! You are that! Please be it!

I will spend a few minutes answering questions.

Q: In the story about the baby, why did you hand the baby to Mark and not to anybody else?

Jeshua: I handed the baby to Mark because Nathaniel was my dear friend and I knew he was afraid. And I knew he had to face that fear and come through it. I was not testing him; I was reminding him to come through the test and trust, to open to the innate trust in his heart. It was very beautiful to see the tension in him fade away. It took a few moments, but then he knew. And he did not know, “Oh, Mark is safe. Mark will not contract leprosy.” He knew, “Thy will be done. It is safe. Whatever most needs to happen will happen and will be for the highest good.”

I would add here that it was Nathaniel and Mark that had come up the road with me. Mark was standing beside me. This was also his opportunity to trust and let go. If it had been someone else, there might have been a different scenario to the story. Others?

Q: What is the best way to help people remember they are love and loved, when they are in great fear?

Jeshua: To love them. To cherish them. If judgment arises, to observe judgment arising, whether it is judgment of yourself or of them, and try not to become caught in the story of the judgment. Have compassion for the self for the arising of that judgment. Love returns. It is never gone, just temporarily out of sight, so you can simply ask, in this moment, where is love?

Sometimes it’s very hard to love people. I know in my life as Jeshua there were times when it was hard to love people. I had to remind myself that I had a purpose for being in the incarnation, which was to diminish fear on this earth and to enhance love; and that the choice was always mine, in every moment, to take the words or actions that would thusly enhance love and diminish fear. If I chose otherwise, I was not living my purpose and I was doing harm.

We must be gentle with ourselves. Sometimes there is so much emotion that one lashes out. And then one can only pause, notice what’s happening, and ask forgiveness.

Q: Are you worried about our world? There seem to be so many terrible weapons, and people with so much anger. We’re worried; are you worried?

Jeshua: Am I worried about the world and all the negative things that seem to be happening? Everything plays out as it needs to. You do with Aaron that pushing arms exercise. You push, they push. You push, they push, until you realize it’s time to back up from pushing. To open the energy field, make space for the push and let it flow through.

Your world is like the seesaw on a fulcrum. More and more highly positively polarized beings are taking incarnation. As they do so, more and more negative beings are trying to push the other way. You will keep holding the space until they back off and learn that they cannot push. They cannot force you to sin, to sink into negativity. But fear empowers negativity.

As you understand the power and are willing to hold your power, to live your power, to say no with love, eventually they will back away. I cannot predict how much destruction must come before that happens. It depends on you. If enough of you are able to hold your loving hearts present, then love will prevail. Love will eventually prevail, but it may not prevail on this planet if you destroy the planet. I don’t think you will, but you have free will.

It takes a great deal of love and of faith. Faith is an odd word. Faith in what? Truly faith in the power of love. Faith in the essence of love that is the foundation of this Earth, and the power you all have to bring forth that love, to hold that love in the world. It is not faith in something external to you; it is faith in your own divine essence, and knowing that that same divine essence is in everything, including those you deem to be most negative in the world. They also have the heart of love. The question really is how do we awaken it. It is not always easy to awaken it. So, you must be gently persistent, again and again.

Each time you meet someone else in what seems to be conflict, remember: this is also the awakened one. This is also God/Goddess, Buddha and Christ. This is also a divine and loving being who can wake up and know the truth of its being.

Negative polarity comes to a dead end at the end of 6th density, and then it must reverse itself, all the way back. To move into 2nd, maybe even 1st density positive polarity and start again. Each time you come to what seems to be a conflict with somebody who seems very negative, you are in fact holding open a door for that person. If you can be gentle, patient, loving, but clear and firm, you can open the door, and they may begin to see that they do need to reverse the polarity. There are billions of you capable of doing this kind of inviting. And if enough of you do it with love, everything can reverse itself very quickly.

One more question…

Q: What did you mean by the outer realms or areas? You said you were on the outer realms, and had another enlightened lifetime.

Jeshua: I did not experience enlightenment in the terms that you think of it here on Earth, as a human. I experienced it on light and energy realms, where at first I did not know myself as light, but sank into darkness. The energy that I was diminished itself, or lashed out, and I woke up to the effect that either extreme had, and began to know that I could trust the essence of light that I am and that everything is, and could live that light. That, in a sense, was my awakening. Then I had to test it on material realms. That was long before the Jeshua lifetime. Does that answer your question?

Q: What do we do when we run into, meet evil spirits?

Jeshua: There are no evil spirits. There are entities that are deeply sunken into negativity. On the one hand, you say, “No, I will not dialogue with you. No.” Because you are not yet strong enough to hold that dialogue with what seems to be strong negativity. As you become more mature and stronger and you ask for help, I am always glad to help you, and Aaron and other masters of light. As you become ready, then you can begin to offer increasing loving energy to them. If they’re willing to receive it, fine. If they are not, they will back away. Do not try to do this yourself. Make sure you have support.

Now, as we close here, there is a well-known prayer, very misquoted in your Bible, that is ascribed to me. And I would like to ask you to pray it with me, if it feels appropriate to your own heart. I’m going to say the words, say a line and then ask you to repeat that line with me.

Beloved Father/Mother/Cosmic Birther,

We bless thy name.

 

May thy kingdom of light and love become manifest on Earth

As it is in the heavenly realms,

and in accordance with the vision of the Infinite Creator

of which we are all a part.

 

Nourish us this day, Father/Mother/Beloved

With the light and love which is our sustenance.

 

Forgive us when we descend into dark realms, into negativity and distortion.
Help us deliver ourselves from sinking into such negativity.

Help us to forgive ourselves when we enter into distortion

And to forgive those around us who thusly enter into distortion.

 

Help us always to know the Light, so we do not become lost in darkness.

 

Thy kingdom is of love and of light.

Help us to live in that love and light

And to know these as the essence of everything.

Now and forever, Amen.

Thank you for being here with me tonight. And now please go and enjoy your celebration. And my thanks to my brother Aaron. My love to you, I am Jeshua. My love to those out there, as I am out there! I delight in this technology. We’re somewhere interweaving in ether-space— or however you term it.

I’ll release the body to Barbara… (is handed another question from someone on-line)

Are light and love the same thing? Light is an expression of love. Love is the core, the unconditioned essence. It expresses itself in many ways, such as spaciousness, as joy and as light. Those are three primary expressions. Aaron’s new book, The Path of Clear Light – can somebody bring a copy in from the table, please? – Aaron’s new book explains this in clear detail. Love is the heart. That love sometimes is freely expressed and sometimes is bound up. When it’s freely expressed, light expresses with it.  This expression is the Path of Clear Light. When the Path is open, when the heart is open, light expresses, and spaciousness and energy. When the heart is shut down, nothing can move through. Aaron’s Path of Clear Light is a beautiful delineation of the path to knowing yourself as light and love, and living from that light and love.

Thank you, I’ll release the body to Barbara. My blessings and love to you all. May all the joys and love in your heart pour forth this season to bring peace and love to all, to yourself, your friends, your neighbors, and those who you consider enemies, too. To all. There are no enemies, there’s only love. I love you. Good evening.

(session ends)

Below are longer versions (2) of Nathaniel and Jeshua at the leper colony from 2010 and 2011 Christmas Stories, from the archives:

Aaron: Accompanying him once, we were walking in the countryside when we heard a cry. He immediately swerved off the main path and up into the hills from whence he heard the cry. He motioned to us that we could stay down there or follow him, as we wished.

Most of us followed him. As we came up into the hill just a short distance, we heard that cry again and again. We knew that there were lepers in these hills, and some of the group stopped as the way got steeper and the cry came closer. I walked with Jeshua.

There was a leper woman giving birth and the baby was stuck in some way, not presenting itself in a way to be eased out. The woman’s mother and other women were with her but nobody knew how to help her.

They were all lepers and leprosy was thought to be contagious so I was afraid. Jeshua turned to me and said, “Nathaniel, you’re a shepherd. You know how to bring forth a lamb that is stuck in the birth canal. Can you help her?” At first I just wanted to flee, I was terrified. Me, touch this leper woman? And then I realized my beloved brother Jeshua would never put me in a situation in which I would be harmed. I had to expand that to the broadest level of harm. If I contracted leprosy, then he knew that that was for my highest good, and it was safe even to become a leper, if that was what was necessary. I also knew he could birth the child. If he was asking me, there was a reason. So at that point there was a release of fear and hesitation. I was given hot water and able to wash, and then able to help by inserting my hand to shift the baby in the right way so that it could be eased out. The mother pushed it out, and it was a beautiful, whole baby.

They invited us to have some hot beverage with them and then we walked back down the path to the rest of our comrades. Before we left, he took so many of their hands and spoke to them, walked around simply extending his love to each one.

Several weeks later, returning past that way, he said to me, “Let’s go up that hill and see how that baby is.” So we climbed up the hill. The others again waited below. As we approached, what I saw astonished me, but it should not have surprised me. The first to greet us was a woman I had noticed before in an advanced stage of leprosy, and her whole body was healing. Others were healing and some fully healed, including the mother of this child.

They asked him, “Did you do this?” They had known who he was, that he was the one called by various names, the Teacher of Love, the Teacher of Righteousness, as he was called. “Did you do this?” He said, “No, your own love and faith did it. I do not heal; God heals. And when you invite healing and trust your own inner capacity to heal, it can happen.”

We spent the night there. They feasted us. It was a joy to hold this baby and to see the radiant mother, literally growing new fingers; her hands, her body, healing. But what was most important to me of that memory was his saying, “No, I did not heal you,” because his work was not to make himself important but to help each human know its own divinity and its own power to co-create wholeness and love. The essence of his message was to empower through pointing out each one’s own divinity.

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Aaron: At another time, traveling with him, we heard a voice cry out from the hills above the path on which we walked, and the adult Jeshua being who he was, immediately turned up the narrow path to see from where the cry came. I followed him and there were several others with us. My son Mark was also with us.

We came through some rock crevices and around a bend into a somewhat open area where there were some caves; it was a small leper colony. There was a young woman who was a leper and whose cry we had heard, giving birth. People were trying to help her but nobody really knew what to do as the baby was not presenting itself in the correct way.

Jeshua immediately turned to me. I was a shepherd. I knew how to birth lambs, even lambs that are in a difficult presentation. He said, “Will you help?” I had hung back; I was afraid. I did not want to touch this, what I thought of as, unclean woman. Jeshua asked for hot water, soap, clean cloths. I felt he would never lead me directly into danger so I decided it was safe. Part of me was afraid and the deeper part of me trusted him.

I don’t think he needed me to do what I did. Inviting me, asking me to help was for me, not for him or for the woman giving birth, but it helped me to trust and move past my fear and simply act in service, to not see a leper but simply a woman giving birth. So using my skills I was able to literally reach in and correct the mal-presentation and help draw the baby forth.

He walked around to speak with all the people, took their hands, offered an embrace. They asked us to share their meal. I didn’t want to eat; there was still fear. I was especially afraid for my son. But Jeshua joyfully sat down with them and shared their food. How could I not join him?

It was dark by that time so we slept the night there, saw this new mother in the morning, now comfortable and holding her infant. The infant of course had no sign of leprosy at this point and the mother said to Jeshua, “Please take him. I do not want him to die.” And Jeshua said, “He will not die. See his perfection. He is healthy.”

We went on and several weeks passed as we traveled. Coming back that way on that same trail, Jeshua said, “Let us go and see how they are.” These had been people who were quite sick, maimed, showing all the disfiguration of leprosy. As we came up the path, what greeted us was a fully different picture. There were still some signs of leprosy, people who had lost digits on their hands had not re-grown them, but much of the scarring of the skin and other such signs of the disease were gone. People seemed radiant, much healthier.

This mother came forth with her now 3-week-old baby, held him out to Jeshua. “You’re right,” she said, “he’s perfect.” And her disease was clearly healing– not fully healed but healing. I asked him later, “Did you do this?” because of course he had the capacity to heal. He said, “No, I do not heal. God heals. That of God within each being that comes to know its own perfection, when that perfection is reflected into it by those who see it and speak with it and relate to it, when that knowing of your own perfection is awakened – that allows you to heal. These people were reflecting their own disfigurements and disease to each other, feeling a sense of despair and helplessness. All I did was to remind them, ‘You are divine, you are perfect. Don’t be the leper, be the radiant human being who is at a passing phase in which this disease is manifesting and then let it go.’ ”

So they were all healing. He awakened that in them, he reminded them of their truth. This was the core of his work. When he said such as, “The only way to the Father is through me,” he did not mean through me, this personal man that you see, but through the Christ consciousness, by which I mean simply awakened consciousness, that I AM, Buddha nature, that which is awake. When you know that you are that, how can you think of yourself as anything less? So when he said that, “The way to the Father is through me,” he meant, through knowing this awakened consciousness, this divinity that you are, and living it.

His message has perhaps even greater meaning on Earth now than it had 2000 years ago because you are all within this transition to the expression of divine man, to the highest expression of your being, non-dual consciousness, unconditional love. This is the future of your Earth. I know there are terrible wars and brutality and despair throughout the Earth. You ask me, “Aaron, how can you speak of unconditional love when people are so brutally killing each other and with so much hatred?”

I do not deny that there is strong negative polarity on the earth. That which is strongly negative, it exists. It is not ultimate evil, there is no such thing as ultimate evil, but it is that which is deeply entrenched in negativity or what we might call service to self, deeply contracted. It fears the light, it fears love, and it fights with all its might to hold its own negative contracted self-serving space. It adheres to the old myths: “Only our religion is the path to salvation. No other religion. Only our country. Only our beliefs.” That old archaic consciousness is the voice of fear. The only answer is love, compassion, and kindness. But compassion knows how to say no. It doesn’t say, “Walk all over me; kill me.” It says no, but it doesn’t hate while it says no.

This insight is what your Earth so badly needs right now. All of you are here learning this lesson, how to relate to that which manifests as negative around you, with lovingkindness and compassion that’s able to say no to negativity but without hating the negativity. When enough of you learn how to do this, it’s going to bring about the change you seek. This Earth has the potential to be the Eden that was promised, to be a place of true peace and plenty. That which you seek cannot coexist with the perpetuation of fear and separatist consciousness. Each of you have the work to find this nondual awareness in yourselves. Each of you have 1000 opportunities every week to relate with kindness to negativity, and you’re not going to do it perfectly. Do it as best you can.

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[1] Two versions of this complete story are  posted at the end of this transcript

Dharma Journal | November 2017 | The Deeper Gift of Vipassana is Freedom

Vipassana meditation leads to a deeper, clearer seeing. Aaron discusses how Vipassana meditation moves you into responding from your heart.

Video and transcript, the video is also closed captioned.

 

Transcript, there are a few edits in the transcript that are not on the video.

November 2017 – Dharma Journal
The Deeper Gift of Vipassana is Freedom

My blessings and love to you. I am Aaron. It is a privilege to be with you in this way. You know that these are not recorded the month that you see them but pre-recorded. Right now it’s a beautiful October afternoon. You will be hearing this in November. In between, we are headed to Oakwood Retreat Center in Indiana for a week of Vipassana meditation.

People often ask Barbara and me, “Why do we practice? What is Vipassana meditation? What are we trying to gain from meditation?” Such questions! Let’s start at the beginning. You are a beautiful and radiant spirit here in this incarnation to learn to respond with loving kindness to the earth plane catalysts that come your way. Sometimes it’s easy. People are loving you, praising you. Your body feels strong and healthy. The sun is shining! But if that’s the total of your experience on this earth plane, how would you learn to deepen in a loving, spacious response, when something is painful?

The past months I’ve read some to you from my new book. We hope that book will be published and available to you by early December. I made the decision not to share more directly from the book now but rather to go into something that is the ground for the book and without which you could not do the practices in the book.

First, what is meditation? You are meditation. It is your natural state – stillness, spaciousness. The sky’s natural state is spaciousness, but when certain conditions are present it fills with clouds and looks very busy. Water has fluidity, so it can move. But when no conditions are pushing it into movement it is still.

Your natural state is spaciousness and stillness when no conditions are pushing you into agitation. Without the conditions, however, you could not learn. So, there will always be that which pushes at you on the earth plane, giving you the opportunity to respond to that push – either with anger, with contraction, with agitation, or with spaciousness, letting your own unique light shine forth.

I said there are certain things that will help you to do the practices in the book, and one is to be able to discern the places where you’re contracted or agitated, where you are pulling window shades down over your light. And to discern the places where you are open – heart open, light pouring out. Vipassana meditation … this is not the only use of Vipassana, but it is an excellent practice for doing this work with such quality.

Present with breathing … the first two or three breaths may be very easy. Then there’s an itch. Attention is no longer with the breath. Itching … Which is predominant, the sensation of the itch or wanting to scratch the itch? You don’t have to figure out which is predominant. Your attention is immediately pulled to whatever is predominant. So first the itching sensation, and then wanting to scratch. It’s not the itch itself that is predominant. It’s tension. It doesn’t matter what’s holding your attention – the itching sensation or the tension. The focus is simply, “This has arisen into my experience. It is unpleasant. How will I relate to it? I can relate with kindness or with anger and tension. If I relate with anger and hostility, I create more separation from the experience and from myself, from my heart.”  This is vipassana!

When I note the intention to want to push it away, and instead of blaming myself for that intention, I breathe with kindness for myself – breathing in I am aware of the tension. Breathing out I hold space for the tension. I smile into the tension.  – then, and this is what I highlight in the book – then I begin to find the simultaneity of the tension, hostility, fear, discomfort, and aversion and the spaciousness.

You are all so deeply conditioned. When something pushes a button, you react. That’s how the human mind works. You’re a mammal. This is how the mammal is wired. But you are not an alligator, a wolf or a bird of prey. You are human. You may have been all of those in the past. Now in this precious lifetime you are human, and you have the opportunity not to be reactive. but to move into experiences and respond from your heart.

Vipassana – the word in Pali, passana, means to see. Vipassana means a deeper, clearer seeing. It gives you the opportunity to observe the habitual responses – the mosquito tickling the arm.  Impulse to slap. If I slap the mosquito and kill it, and then my neighbor’s dog comes into my yard and damages plants in my garden, am I going to poison him? When my neighbor’s child comes into my yard with his friends, making a lot of noise, am I going to shoot them? Habit depends upon habit.

When we watch the small habit to slap at the mosquito, we can note “intention to slap, aversion to the mosquito,” and then gently brush it away. We don’t have to kill it. This heightens the habitual tendency. We also don’t have to permit it to bite. When the dog is in the yard, go outside and say, “Go. That’s my garden.” You can even yell at him to make him run away – not harming him but making it clear. “No, you may not dig in my garden. No, you may not suck on my blood.” In this way, we can learn to respond compassionately and wisely to the physical, mental and emotional catalysts of everyday life.

But everyday life is busy. It’s hard to pay attention to everything. When you’re sitting in meditation there’s nothing you have to attend to, except what is arising in this moment, in this mind and body. We start with the intention to respond with love, with kindness and with harm to none but also with a compassionate “no” when appropriate.

If you’re sitting on the cushion in your living room or at the retreat in the meditation hall, and suddenly a flock of chickens runs through, you don’t have to grit your teeth and say, “I shouldn’t mind this.” (Inaudible) The chickens are in the house. Their droppings will be all over your carpet. Get up and escort them out and close the door. Kindness does this. Stillness does this. Not, “Get out of here chickens,” said with frantic screaming; just “Chickens, out you go.” Pick this one up and put it out. Pick that one up and put it out. Close the door.

You have many flocks of chickens running through your house every day, running through your human mind-house. How are you going to attend to them? With Vipassana we’re sitting still, and we see the thought come and then the intention to enact the thought, or to stop the thought. We may say, “No, no thinking.” But the conditions were present, and the thought arose. As soon as I noticed it, the thought has stopped. I just come back to my breath. The body is a different set of chickens:  neck pain, wanting to move the neck, pain, pain, unpleasant, tension. We feel the body closing up and creating more pain in the neck. Ahh compassion for this human. “Breathing in I am aware of the tension, aware of the pain. Breathing out I hold space for the pain.” Give it a minute or two to resolve a bit. If it’s still there, and it feels important to do so, gently turn the head a bit to release the tension. And then, as you close your eyes and come back to your breath, also become aware of tension that you habitually hold in the shoulders and the neck.

Thus, we return to the innate tension-free state of being, the place of spaciousness, of light, of awakeness, right there with the tension. The more you try to get rid of the tension, the more you may contract around the tension and create more tension. Vipassana practice leads us to freedom, first with these mundane reactions we have established for one or many lifetimes, such as an habitual way you hold the body. If there’s tension do you hunch your shoulders and clench? I doubt if you relax unless you have done a lot of practice. But right there with the tension is spaciousness. Where is it? Can you feel it?

The deeper gift of Vipassana, beyond responding increasingly kindly and wisely to catalysts in this way is what I would literally call freedom. We no longer find ourselves so deeply triggered by the annoying or painful circumstances of everyday life. We begin to know who we are, beyond those habitual energies, and to trust the world, to trust that you are already an awakened being, to trust that alive, radiant, awakeness of yourself and of everyone. You begin to speak to others – speaking more to that awakeness in the others – not to the personality so much as the spirit. You, yourself, begin to speak from this place of spaciousness. You begin to wake up, to know the truth of who you are. You are Buddhas. You are the Christ. You are the awakened one. You. And now with your Vipassana practice you have the opportunity to practice as is needed, in order to move into that awakeness and know it for certain. It is a beautiful practice.

I hope you will look at my instructions on the website, that you will try to attend Vipassana classes and retreats and practice, practice, practice, practice, because it’s the only way you’ll learn – with daily practice.

Thank you for this opportunity to talk to you. My blessings and love.

Evenings with Aaron and Jeshua – April 12, 2017

Living with Love in a World Filled with Fear and Anger

Aaron: My blessings and love to you all. I am Aaron. (pausing to read the online names)

I do love this technology that lets us gather together, so many of you friends from all over, and sit and talk together. It takes me back almost 30 years to Barbara and Hal’s living room and people gathering there. We need a little fireplace here.

Our topic tonight is, living with love in a world filled with fear and anger. We begin with the small world of the self, living with love in a self that is filled with fear and anger, and then maybe in a home filled with fear and anger, and then a village, and then a city, and then a country, and then a world.

How do you live with love in a self that is filled with fear and anger? Do you scold yourself? Do you say, “No anger permitted here.”, which is just more anger? Do you act out the anger? It doesn’t do, of course, to try to stifle it or to act it out.

I want to share with you a few lines from the Buddhist scripture, Dhammapada, Verse 222.

“I see that those who contain anger, as a charioteer controls a speeding chariot, are fully in charge of their lives. Others are merely keeping their hands on the reins.”

You can envision the charioteers, a whole line of them, racing around the arena. The horses are filled with energy, charging ahead. The charioteers are all holding the reins. With some, there’s fear and uncertainty communicated through the reins. They’re not really in control of the chariot. Either the horses are leading the way, or the charioteer is pulling back so hard that the horses cannot move freely.

(pause for technical difficulties, remote connectors can hear but cannot see Aaron) I’d rather just sit for 2 or 3 minutes until we can see each other. So I’d invite you now just to meditate. (pause) Breathing in and aware of impatience, if it has arisen. “This isn’t what I signed up for. I was supposed to be able to see Aaron.” Well, isn’t it a miracle that you can hear me? But still, impatience arises. The important point is that the impatience is not bad, it simply arose from conditions. If certain conditions are present, things will arise. When the conditions pass, they will pass.

The question is not what arises; you are simply deepening in the certainty that the objects will arise if the conditions are not yet purified. The question is, how do we relate to what arises. If you stub your toe, there will be pain. Do you then kick harder at the rock, with anger at the rock? Do you walk around gritting your teeth and pretending you didn’t stub your toe? Or do you sit and gently, lovingly hold the foot and give the pain time to resolve?

It’s the same with anger as with a physical sensation, and impatience is a form of anger. So if any of you in the room here or on the Zoom session are feeling impatience, let us hold that impatience with kindness in ourselves. Breathing in, I am aware of impatience. — I see a blue light! (meaning the camera is now working) I am aware of impatience or irritation, grasping, whatever it may be. Just opening your heart to yourself. Let’s just sit for a minute, holding space.

(sitting)

(further technical difficulties for several minutes)

Just breathing in and out and hold space for any emotion. This is really the heart of my talk anyhow, so it’s a perfect opportunity to practice.

(pause)

So, anger will arise, and you note that the Buddha did not say, no anger but… let me read it again: “I see that those who contain anger are fully in charge of their lives.” He did not say those who have no anger, only, those who contain anger.

What does it mean to contain anger? It means to be present with it and understand that the conditions for its arising have not yet been purified; that when we take care of our anger it doesn’t control us. When we take care of the horses’ energy through the reins, they can’t run away, and they won’t pull the shoulders out of their sockets, through fighting with them. Just communicating is the answer: slow down, slow down. (raising his arms) Pulling back on the reins and communicating: slow down. To ourselves— here’s the bit in my mouth— slow down, slow down.

When we practice in that way we begin to form a different relationship with anger. Simply knowing it as having arisen, as impermanent, and that we don’t have to do anything but take care of it, is the practice. It will go. Until we have the capacity to do that within ourselves we cannot do it for our families, our community, our world. People get so riled up, and then they want to fight back. People have forgotten how to listen to themselves and to each other. This capacity to listen is my first point in healing anger.

I was passed an interesting story today, about a man on a TED talk show. He was talking about how we respond to others, taking part in the world but not from a place of fear. Part of his story was about someone who burst into a bank and said, “Give me $2,000. I have a bomb, and if you don’t give me $2,000 I’m going to blow up the bank.” The bank manager looked at him carefully. She didn’t scream. She didn’t rush to grab $2,000. She said, “I’m curious. You say you want $2,000. Why do you want $2,000?” The man said, “My dear friend is going to be evicted unless he has $2,000 by tomorrow, so I need $2,000.” She smiled and said to him, “Then you don’t want to rob a bank, you just need a loan. Come with me to my office. We’ll fill out the forms.” I can’t vouch for the truth of this, but it comes through a reliable source. Whether it happened or not, the real question is, in that situation would you have listened that carefully, or would your fear have taken over? Stories— how do I fix this? Anger, lack of control. Are you listening? Why does he need $2,000?

There was recently a physician who was pulled of a United Airlines flight. Some of you may have seen the film of it on the news. They asked him to leave the flight. They had overbooked it, but apparently, they had overbooked it because there were four United staff people who wanted seats. That raises a bit of concern, why they get priority. He said, “I am not getting off. I’m a doctor and I have to be back at the hospital tomorrow morning.” They literally dragged him off the flight; there’s a picture of him being dragged down the aisle. Blood is coming from his nose and mouth. They pulled him off the flight, and then he ran back on, saying, “I must be on the flight. I have to make the flight.” But nobody asked him, “Why do you have to make the flight?” This seems like the core question that would be asked before the was asked to disembark. So much less anger that way!

 When we listen to ourselves and to each other, this is one of the strongest diffusers of anger and fear, because people who hear each other are connected heart to heart. You may not agree with each other but at least you’re listening to each other.

First we need to start listening to ourselves. What fear, what impatience, anxiety, irritation, has arisen in me just now, and how am I relating to it? Am I listening to myself? A fear, this won’t work out, that won’t work out? A fear, my needs won’t be met?

My second point: at the beginning there needs to be a clear sense of intention. You must know where you’re going if you want to get there. If you’re driving with friends down a road and you come to a big sign with two arrows that say, “To the Beach. To the Mountain.”, do you stop the car and have an hour-long discussion of where you’re going? Hopefully before you got in the car you decided, “I’m going to the beach,” or to the mountain. Then you come to the road sign and you know which way to turn.

If, similarly, your intention is to get rid of anything that is uncomfortable for you, to always feel in control, when something happens, like a man running into the building saying, “I want $2,000 or I’ll bomb the place,” can you hear him? If your spouse, parent, or child says, “I’m really angry about this,” can you pause and hear what’s really happening with that person? Or are you too busy trying to do damage control by getting them quiet? What’s making this person angry? What’s happening? What triggered this particular outburst of anger?

You can do it with yourself. When anger comes up, what triggered it? What’s happening? You do it with others. When enough of you develop the capacity to do this, you will begin to model a different relationship with heavy emotion. Gradually that model will spread.

So now I want to pass this to Jeshua, give him a chance to give his 20-minute opening talk, and then we will open the floor to your questions. Certainly I have not nearly even scratched the surface of the topic. But let’s invite Jeshua in.

(Aaron trying to start a new file for Jeshua) The iPad downloaded a new operating system last night while she slept, and Barbara spent several hours today trying to figure out how it works. She went to sleep with it working fine; she woke up with it saying you now have OS-something— Panther, Tiger, Werewolf, whatever. It is recording. Jeshua will come in.

Jeshua: What a lovely situation, and how good to see all your faces and feel your energy. Thank you for being here with me. I am Jeshua, and I love you all. Thank you, Aaron. It feels a bit strange to call this friend Aaron, since in our last lifetime together he was Nathaniel. But I will call him Aaron because that’s how you know him. And the names don’t matter anyhow. We are just energy, just light. The personality and name is only the clothing on the surface, nothing of ultimate importance.

(pausing to check the microphone system and adjust seating, moving to a stoolI’m much more comfortable upright. I’m used to standing when I speak. This is better. Not quite standing, but adequate.

You are not the clothing that you wear. You are not your names. You are not the anger that may arise in you at times. You are not the fear that may arise. You are not even the joy or patience that may arise, although these are expressions of your ultimate truth, and yes, the anger is also an expression. It is a contracted expression. The joy is a spacious expression. You are love and light. You are the energy of our Father/Mother/Creator bursting forth with that beautiful energy here on this heavy density earth plane.

The question for me, then, is not so much how do we handle the anger and negativity in the world, but how do we remember the radiance? Because when you fully remember that radiance, you cannot lose it. This is what I came to teach 2,000 years ago, that you are all expressions of this divinity, and the Light you are cannot die. The essence and love that you are cannot die. It can be hidden. It can diminish. If you take it into a dark closet it will lose a lot of its power temporarily, but it cannot die.

So when I hear the question of how to live in a world filled with fear and anger, how to live with love, for me that first point, the central point, is to remember what you are. But you forget so easily. Why do you forget? Is it that hard to remember?

I think, and Aaron has said this to you before, I think you are afraid of the power that you feel when you remember what you are. And so, you diminish your power by forgetting. You close yourself off into this much smaller self. You are love. You are enormous power, radiance, love and light. You are no different than me. You keep putting me on a pedestal. Don’t put me on a pedestal. Let me say it differently. Don’t put me alone on a pedestal; bring yourself up there with me. It’s lonely up here; share the pedestal with me. Share the mountaintop. You are love. You are light.

When I came into that incarnation as Jeshua, 2,000 years ago, I did not go through as deep a forgetting process as most of you do because I was more awake at birth. Yet at times I did forget who I was and why I had come.

As Aaron just reminded you, you need to know your intention to live with love toward the self and all beings, to do no harm. To touch the essence of yourself, the divine essence; draw it in and bring it out into the world. Let all beings feel, really experience that essence through you.

That human that I was, he could not always do it successfully because on this heavy density Earth, it’s like you are walking through heavy fog. It’s very hard to remember where you’re going. Back into Aaron’s talk, with the heavy cloud, you miss the sign that says, “Ocean. Mountains.” You just keep driving straight ahead, and then you wonder, when will we get there? Were you going somewhere?

You’re remembering the intention steers you to it. Again, I believe, Aaron, is this from Dhammapada, the bee metaphor? He says, yes. A bee heads to the nectar to make honey. He’s drawn to the pollen by the sweet scent of the flowers. In this way, be drawn toward the innate goodness in yourselves. Begin to trust this radiance in yourself. It isn’t hard. Nobody is going to slap you or put you down if you are not 100% successful. But when you hold the intention to live your radiance, you can do it. And if you don’t hold the intention, then you fall into anger and darkness.

Was I ever angry as Jeshua? Of course. People sometimes ask me, what did I do about my anger? I think the practice that worked best for me, and this was what my beloved mother taught me when I was a very young child. She would have me sit down on her lap and hold me in her arms, and I would be furious. She would ask me to think of something that I loved, of something beautiful that had happened that day, of a flower that we had just seen together, of something joyful, and simply to say, thank you. My mother was the expert on “thank you”. This was the biggest thing she taught me. Thank you. And then when there was a catalyst for anger, and it tore me apart a bit, I would remember to say thank you not only to what was beautiful in my life, but thank you for this anger, because anger is energy and power. Without anger you cut yourself in half as a human. You diminish your capacity to love if you cannot allow yourself to feel your capacity for that which feels uncomfortable or negative to you. The question is not about feeling the anger but what you do with anger.

So now you are hearing the same thing from me and from Aaron: what are you going to do with your anger?

Many of you are quite upset with the current state of the world, so many things which are arousing anger. Twitters from your president, is that how it’s phrased? Tweets, from your president. So your president tweets and then all the birds twitter? Is that how it works? I mean no disrespect. At any rate, tweets from your president. Children gassed in Syria. People then bombed in Syria. People who want to leave Syria to go to a place that is safe, to raise their children in safety, and they’re not permitted. The countries they would go to won’t let them in. There is a lot to bring up anger and feelings of injustice and powerlessness in your world.

What do we do with those feelings of injustice? What do we do with those acts of injustice? We want to change the acts of injustice. But we cannot change the acts of injustice until we open our hearts, until each of you is able to know how injustice feels in you, the coiling of energy, contraction, anger. And then my mother’s Thank you. Thank you for feelings of anger. Thank you for feelings of powerlessness. Yes. Thank you for this precious human life. Thank you for the feelings, the emotions that come with being human.

We on the higher plane cannot change this Earth; we can only talk to you and guide you. It’s up to you, through the changes you make in yourselves, to change the world.

Now we come to the second part of my talk, and many of you have heard this from me before. Aaron said it very clearly a week or two ago: you are all volunteers. Why did you come? Did you expect this was going to be some kind of completely pain-free playground and resort? That there was never going to be any discomfort? You knew better than that. You volunteered because there was a deep intention to help bring this Earth up to the high vibration that it can be. This is not just for the Earth and the humans and other sentient beings on the Earth, but quite literally as a power that can shift the whole universe.

I can remember, long ago, I loved to sing as Jeshua. As a boy I had a very clear, high voice, and I loved to sing. Others around me, some of them could carry a tune very well, and others could not quite carry a tune. I noticed that as a singer I had a choice. I could be pulled off-tune by the others, or I could stay true to my own notes, to my own tune and sense of harmony, and just hold the space for others to join in. I played with that often, as a young child, because as a 3, 4, 5 year old I didn’t always have the confidence to be the one singing loud, the confidence in my voice. But gradually I developed more confidence to simply stick to my own true tone; to hear myself know and know if I went off-tune. If I did, to become quiet and listen. But if I felt clear, that I was on tune, to sing loud and invite others to join me in holding those clear notes. I found that the more I did that, the more the whole group sang in tune.

This is no different, of course, then holding a space of love in a world that’s chaotic, frightened, and angry. You don’t have to hear it. It’s an energy, and it’s the energy for which you came into being, the high energy of love.

 I will pause. It seems we are having some technical problems…

As Aaron mentioned at the beginning, we have some new equipment, and each piece of new equipment requires a learning curve. My deepest thanks, along with Aaron’s, to B and T for the effort you’re putting forth to make this work right…

You are light. Stand up, wherever you are. Stand up… Be the light that you are. Feel the loving energy pouring through you and send it out. Don’t diminish yourself. Feel the power that you are, and don’t be afraid of it. But if there’s some fear, just say thank you. We are love. We are light. You are the light of the world, you. You are all the light of the world. Don’t hide it. Don’t diminish it. Trust that the ability to be that light would not have been given to you if you were not ready to carry it.

Thank you. You may all sit. We are going to open the floor to questions now. I would prefer at first that the questions relate to what we’re discussing here tonight. Of course, any reasonable question… Aaron says, don’t categorize it as reasonable; any reasonable or unreasonable question is welcome. But we’d prefer at first questions that relate to our talk. (Somebody is going to start a new recording. It will not be me (and then Aaron coaches him through it; very sweet!)

April 12, 2017 Wednesday Evening with Aaron and Jeshua Q & A

Jeshua: My technology is remembered from 2,000 years ago. We had some very advanced technology then that did not need machines and equipment. I hope all of you will advance into that level of technology that also does not need this kind of equipment. You are on the way to becoming telepathic and clairaudient but you haven’t gotten there yet, perhaps because you’re so reliant on these machines. You think you need something to do it for you.

Questions. You may designate to me or to Aaron the specific question, or to either of us, and whichever feels inclined to answer will respond.

Q: I’d like to request healing from Jeshua.

Jeshua: Q, you know I can be in many places at once, so let me work with that with you now while I or Aaron are also talking to the group. I am with you. My love is with you, and I will help you as much as I am able.

Q: The story about the manager at the bank, that seems to be what Aaron has been trying to teach us all along. Is there anything now that is the best practice for us? I feel very close to being able to live that.

Aaron: I am Aaron. The story about the bank. Yes, it’s what I’ve been trying to teach you for decades. Being human, you mostly stumble through it rather than walking clearly, so let’s ask, what helps?

From my perspective, watching contraction. The body contracts when it’s pushed; when there’s a loud noise and something startles you; when you see something that’s unpleasant or hear something that’s unpleasant. The very simplest practice is just to note contraction. That which is aware of contraction is not contracted. When you become aware of contraction, then you can ask yourself, in what ways am I reinforcing this contraction rather than noting it, opening my heart to it, and not becoming self-identified with it?

As soon as you become self-identified with it, create stories around it, try to fix it, even try to be openhearted with it, then it becomes a major force. Right there in that moment, where is that which is uncontracted?

So many of you have done this with me before, and yet I have found it’s always a useful exercise for people, because people tell me they keep learning no matter how many times I do this, so we’ll try (SHOUT!)… Did you contract? Where is the contraction now? Breathing in, I am aware of the contraction. Breathing out, I hold space for the contraction. Right here (pointing to the body). This is Level II of this practice, not just awareness of contraction, but right here with the body that is still reverberating a bit from that loud, startling yell, can I feel spaciousness? I’m requesting you to try to experience both at the same time, the body still trembling a bit and the spaciousness. Can you see how the trembling is an overlay over the spaciousness, and if you go under that overlay, the spaciousness is still there? Because the spaciousness connects to the essence of your being and you cannot lose it. The contraction is just the clothing on the top.

Can you feel the spaciousness that’s there, even if the body is still trembling from contraction? Then the next step: if mind keeps going back to the contraction with a subtle intention to fix it or get rid of it, let it be. It will never go away if you keep pushing it. Let the contraction be; let the mind with its preferences be and don’t get caught in believing the thoughts. Let it be.

Imagine the crying baby. It wakes up. It was startled— thunder, maybe, a loud sound. You pick it up from its crib. Are you going to shake it and say, “Stop crying! Stop crying!” Of course, that doesn’t help. So, you try to walk with the baby and say, “Shhh…shhh… shhh…”, patting it on the back, but inside there’s this little voice saying, “Why won’t it stop crying?” And you’re communicating that to the baby. The one who speaks to the baby cannot be there saying, “Why won’t you stop crying?”, but, “Oh, you were startled. Oh, crying is a natural reaction to be startled and afraid. It’s okay, and you can cry for as long as you need to cry. When that startle and fear resolve, the crying will stop. And for now, you are safe and you are loved.” Can you feel the difference?

So this is what you keep doing to yourself. The reaction comes up. You see right there with the reaction that which is still, but you’re still pushing aside the reaction instead of just opening your heart and knowing, “Yes, there was reaction. I open my heart to it. I give it time and space to resolve.” Gradually you get better at this.

We were with a friend this weekend who, upon hearing that something in the schedule was not going to his liking, was a bit afraid he would be late for something. Fear came up, anger came up, and then he turned to the person next to him and lashed out at something that that person had said. While what the person had said was not entirely skillful, it wasn’t so terrible. But he lashed out in a very strong way to his friend. Recognizing the contractions, he had the strong inner wisdom to pick himself up and walk out of the room, go to another place for a bit, and give himself time to be with the fear, “What if it doesn’t work?! What if it doesn’t happen the way it has to happen?!” Finally he came back, and his whole energy field, instead of looking like fireworks now just looked like gentle waves on the ocean. It was a remarkable change, because he caught his reactivity and could take himself out of the room.

Sometimes you can take yourself out of the room; sometimes you can’t. If you can’t take yourself out of the room, can you at least be quiet?

Let’s go on to another question. I was going to offer Jeshua the microphone, but he says let us go on, nothing to add.

Q: Many people are really angry and outraged (inaudible) sort of constantly. I am not feeling that way most of the time. It seems to me difficult to talk to people when they’re so angry and upset. It’s like you’re stupid or don’t care, if you’re not. I know it’s not my job to convince them, but I guess I want to be helpful.

Aaron: I’m going to speak to this briefly and then give it to Jeshua. You are a very long-term practitioner of the dharma, and through these practices you’ve developed both calmness and wisdom. You understand the deep truth, that everything that arises is impermanent, and that running around hysterical about it does not help. You understand that it’s impermanent.

Looking deeply at you, not just tonight with your question but in the many times we’ve spoken together, I do not see any dissociation with what’s happening in the world. But rather, ability to step back into the long-term picture, and to realize that agitation just adds to the agitation.

I think the big step for you, now, is the deepening of compassion that recognizes that these people of whom you speak are deeply caught up in the stories. It may be possible to point out to them, “Yes, there is a lot going on in the world that is tragic, that is painful, that is of concern, but giving it more fear and angry energy only adds fear. Do you understand what I mean?” I’m not asking you; I know you understand, but to ask them, “Do you understand what I mean?” And they say, “No, that sounds weird.” Then you can say, “Would you like me to talk more about it? It’s okay if you’re feeling frightened and upset and agitated and I’m not. Can we just agree that both are okay?”

Those who are ready to hear more will ask for more. Those who are not ready will say, “No, I don’t want to hear more. You’re crazy because you’re not upset.” Okay. If they want to think you’re crazy, let them think you’re crazy. Don’t take it personally. It’s where they are now.

At this point, let me pass this on to Jeshua.

Jeshua: I am Jeshua. Your world has come a long way in 2,000 years. The atrocities which alarm you in the world today alarm you because they are not the commonplace, because most people in the world are trying to live with more gentleness and respect for each other. Two thousand years ago there was so strongly a “Me for me; an eye for an eye, and tooth for a tooth” mentality. The “Me for me” might extend to your family, or even your community, but there was always a distinct “other”, someone toward whom aggression was poured. This was the norm.

Humans have worked hard for 2,000 years to move past that belief in separation. I agree with everything Aaron has said. I would add something to it. For you who raised the question, for yourself and for the person who is upset and angry, and is asking you, “Why aren’t you upset?”, what is the most heart-centered response to take you past separation and into connection? Maybe you must just listen to that person for an hour, or 5 or 6 hours. Listen to them until they wind down; listen to all the fear and anger pouring out. And then, gently point out to them, “Everybody in this world wants happiness and peace. We cannot find happiness and peace at the cost of another’s lack of happiness and peace. I find for myself” — I’m suggesting what you can say, adding to Aaron’s suggestions— “I find for myself that even if I feel angry, when I rant at others it doesn’t help create the happiness and peace I am seeking. But if I can keep my heart open to the needs of others, to their fears, then I can help them bridge this self/other gap and we come together, to really hear each other.”

For me the question is, what most promotes hearing? In those days when I walked the earth as Jeshua, there were so many people who applauded my coming, my presence, but they wanted to create an “other” around me, to make me something special or different, rather than including themselves in that circle of enlightened being, of awakened presence. There was far more in those days to fear and to be dismayed about than there is today. There was enormous cruelty everywhere. So often I witnessed people who were experiencing that cruelty, wanting to fight back without understanding what “fight back” could mean. How do we fight back? How do we say no to abuse in the world? You touch in to the awakened heart of your being and speak and act from that heart, and not from the ego self.

I am laughing. I think Aaron and I are becoming interchangeable parts here! I’m not sure we’re any longer speaking with two distinct voices. But I am Jeshua and he is Aaron. We’re both speaking to you from the grace of enlightened awareness, and inviting you to step into that space with us, to see that it is possible, even while you are still human, to live and respond from that place of enlightened awareness; to remember the high vibrational beings that you are and live from that high vibration, because this is what you came into the incarnation for.

Coming back to your question, Q, when there are enough of you able to hold loving space for those who are angry, frightened, confused, stomping their feet and screaming for change without any insight into how to affect that change, when there are enough of you able to listen and not react, but respond by holding space, holding energy, change will occur. Can you feel my energy here? (pause; Jeshua stands up) Can you feel my energy? I’m simply raising my energy, an energy of love. When people are screaming, “Fix this! Do that!” and you breathe deeply and hold space for their fear, it helps the fear to dissolve.

 If you get caught up in their fear, it doesn’t help. You came to help, so many of you who are truly higher density beings moving past 3rd density, grounding so deeply in love, and came with a commitment for love. And as you learn how to do that, you learn how to respond in a loving way.

Ahimsa. Aaron is reminding me of the word ahimsa, dynamic compassion. It is not a compassion that just says, “Oh, everything is sweet and lovely.” It knows when something is dangerous and harmful. It doesn’t strike out at it with hatred or anger but understands that the fear arose out of conditions and holds that loving energy around fear and its voices until the volatile energy begins to dissolve. It trusts itself to have the capacity to absorb and release that volatile energy. This is the edge of what so many of you are learning by being here on the earth plane in a situation where there are such heavy emotions. That the power of compassion, the acknowledgement of your awakeness and high energy and love, of your essence, can literally transmute the volatile energy into a whole different force, into love.

But it takes enormous courage, so for many of you it’s easier just to say, “Ah, I don’t know what to do! I don’t know what to do!” You do know what to do. You do know what to do, all of you. You do know what to do.

Let us move on to another question.

Q: My question relates to the other end, so to speak, of what you’ve been talking about, volatility and anger. I’m asking about the idea of complacency. A teacher has said that complacency is the greatest evil.

Jeshua: Do you understand what Aaron and I have been saying as advocating complacency? Because that is not what either of us intended.

Q: No. I did not.

Jeshua: Complacency. If you see somebody with a gun about to shoot other people, and you act to shoot them before they can shoot the other people, you are responsible for killing that person. If you do not act but simply walk away and let them shoot, you are responsible. You are responsible for all their deaths. You must always be responsible.

You must understand how karma works for this, and I’m not going to spend our remaining half hour on a lesson in karma. But every action is part of karma. So is every lack of action. Complacency is what allowed Hitler to kill so many millions of people.

I’ve been watching your Earth recently with interest because there are so many volatile forces. I see the people that get caught up in anger to fight against the volatile forces, but it’s anger, and almost hatred, that wants to fight. And in answer to (previous Q), I see those who want to just look away. But that, daughter, is not what you are doing. The question is, how do we act with dynamic compassion from a deeply loving heart and discover the ways to say no?

That bank manager, she was not complacent, she was active. She participated, but she listened. Those who are most afraid are those who cannot listen, because they are so busy defending their own viewpoint. You can’t hear another when you’re talking.

(Aaron does not wish to add to this.) Is that sufficient answer to your question? (Yes.)

Q: You were saying that we know what we need to do. And I can relate to that. I think many people in the room can relate to that. But subtle energy is becoming more frequent, and it’s becoming stronger. How to deal with subtle energy, because it’s insidious.

 Q: What do you mean by subtle energy?

Jeshua: I’m going to give you Aaron for this one.

Aaron: I am Aaron. I’m curious; can you feel the difference in speech and energy between me and Jeshua, as we come back and forth? It’s very interesting working side by side like this through the same body. Jeshua and I have led numerous workshops together, with Jeshua channeled through our friend Judy Coates; then there are two bodies, and we can talk back and forth. This is a little different. But it feels to me we’re learning out to come in and out of the body more smoothly. What you may be experiencing is the differences in our subtle energy fields.

 You’ve taken your 6-month-old baby to the lake on a warm summer day, and you have a nice little inflatable boat, almost like a cradle, to lay the baby in. You plan to put a little bit of water in it and let it float. Just as you get to the lake, the wind blows up and storm clouds come in. Suddenly there are whitecaps on the lake. Wind is blowing, rain is pelleting down. You’re going to bring the baby inside, aren’t you? Then the storm passes. You come back outside. But the wind is still blowing. You start to put the baby down, but the waves are coming in. Are you going to put the baby down? No.

Gradually the waves die away. The afternoon passes and it gets quiet, and then there are just little waves. At what point do you put the baby in its boat down in the water? When it’s safe. When it feels like the storm has passed enough that it won’t be turned over, and that baby will be comfortable. But do you wait until the lake is like a mirror? You don’t have to, do you? Fear might say, “Oh yes, it must be absolutely still. He could tip.” That’s fear. The baby will probably enjoy the little ripples. Let it go.

On this human plane, there are always going to be ripples. The emotional body, the physical body, the mental body; there are ripples all over. You learn to trust your intuition as to when it’s calm enough to venture out, to place the baby on the water. But if you try to stop the ripples, you can’t stop them. You say, “It has to be perfectly smooth.” It’s perfectly smooth, and you carry the baby and the boat out into the water. And suddenly, by the force of your walking out there, there are ripples. Are you going to go back to shore? You hold the balance of stillness and motion, of energy and absence of energy. Love holds the balance.

Your life is a matter of learning how to relate to the subtle energies of the earth plane and eventually how to co-create with those subtle energies. Subtle energy is subtle energy. Your fear is a form of subtle energy. When you respond to the subtle energies that you see as “out there” with fear, it creates more disturbance. When you hold space, it helps to calm the subtle energies.

You just experienced this with Jeshua, with his energy. You could feel both the power and the stillness. Something on which I have been working with Barbara, before and during her time in Brazil and the month since, relates to all of this. When she feels pain in the body, contraction, from anywhere or any cause, the body’s usual response to such subtle discomfort is to contract, which worsens the pain, which heightens the contraction. She’s been working with a lot of mindfulness, to note whichever comes first, whichever she notes first: the sensation, which is a little uncomfortable, or the contraction around the sensation. And immediately, we’re coming back to Jeshua’s “Thank you”, immediately to say thank you. Thank you for the reminder to come back into my heart. And she breathes deeply, especially into whatever part of the body is feeling that contraction and discomfort. Feeling the pelvis and lower back open. Feeling the shoulders and neck open. Feeling the chest open. Feeling the face open. Not forcing it, just inviting deep breathing and space. Predominantly space. The breathing reminds her to observe the space that is already there. Not to create space but observe the space that’s already there.

Right there with contraction is spaciousness. And as soon as she observes the spaciousness that’s already there, the contraction loses its grip on her. She opens more into the spaciousness. She begins to know: I am spaciousness, I am that. What Jeshua was talking about earlier, knowing the infinite radiance, purity, beauty, wholeness of the self. I am that. And yes, there may also be a twinge somewhere. So we take care of it. We put ice on it; we do whatever is appropriate for it to help it heal. If it’s an emotional twinge, we hold space for it in the heart. It will go.

The subtle, or not so subtle energies of fear, anger, separation, contraction, may seem to dissolve or may stay. What lies beneath that layer of contraction? If you wait for absolute stillness, it will never come; then you may slide into complacency grounded in separation.

 Does that sufficiently answer your question? If not, please speak further to it.

Q: It answers the question, but the practice is so difficult. You want to put the baby down, but the ripples that you make bring up fear.

Aaron: (smiling) Did you expect it was going to be easy? Find compassion for the human that you are. You are volunteers, and you came in with your eyes open, knowing what you were getting into, even though you may tell me otherwise. You knew it was going to be hard.

Give yourself some R&R sometimes. Get away from the news. Get away from the family or work or whatever else pushes at you. Just go and lounge on the beach, or paddle a kayak around the lake, or take a walk in the woods. Lie down under a tree. Give yourself some space and ease. Meditate.

One of the greatest blessings of meditation is that eventually you do come into a place of high energy and stillness, where the chakras are open, and the mind is not constantly busy. If thoughts come, they just come and go; sensations come and go. There’s not a lot of chasing around about anything, there’s just ahhh…. Then you start to remember who you were before you became this human trying to juggle too many balls. Meditate.

Next question…

Q: What are the skillful ways to work with psychedelics? How can they help us live a joyful, loving, peaceful life?

Aaron: I’m going to give you to Jeshua for this one.

Jeshua: I am Jeshua. In all my many lifetimes, and trying many different kinds of substances to see what different kinds of experience they would lead me to, trying non-substances such as fasting or whatever, trying prolonged periods of meditation, I have found that the most powerful force for awakening is simply presence.

Why would you need psychedelics when you can watch a flower open? Literally hold it in front of you and watch it open? There is nothing so beautiful as that. It’s the whole cycle of earth experience in one small blossom.

When you think you are missing something, and that there’s something else that you need, some of you then may turn to psychedelics. Certainly they’ll give you some kind of unique experience. But from my perspective, it is not a necessary or even a useful experience. I’m not saying it’s bad; it’s fine to try it, if you want to, until you finally learn that’s not where the answer is.

For me, a danger of some kinds of drugs is that they do lead you into a loving, openhearted experience, but the human coming out of that drugged state then becomes agitated because it cannot hold onto the experience. But if you will let yourself rest in your natural state of loving presence, of the awakened heart, that’s all you need. I’m sorry if this is not the answer you were hoping for, but this is what I would speak from the heart.

Babara, while reviewing the transcript. There was a question that came in when Jeshua spoke and was written down but not spoken in to the room. This was the thought that negative energy may have easier access when using drugs. Aaron agrees that this is so; thus there is some real risk with the drugs.

Other questions? And when I answer or Aaron answers a question, please feel free to ask a further question based on that, too. I would rather invite us more into a dialogue than just Aaron and I answering questions.

Q: Going back to what was spoken about earlier, you said everyone wants peace and happiness. I seem to perceive that there are people who do not want peace and happiness. They want power and control, and they are greedy. They have no use for peace or happiness.

Jeshua: There is the hitch, Q, because for them their peace and happiness comes from their feeling in control and having power. They have not yet learned that everybody wants peace and happiness, so it’s very one-sided. What I want; I want it the way I want it.

I once knew a man who had several slaves. If they did not do exactly what he wanted and the way he wanted it done, he would beat them. He gave them enough food to survive, but no more than that. And a blanket that they would not freeze to death, but no more than that. Wherever this man went he tried to command people, to make himself look big so people would be afraid of him.

This man, I had heard tell of him but did not know him. But then I had the opportunity to meet him. I met him at an opportune time. He had fallen off a, I would not call it a cliff, but high enough up that he had broken his leg. He was in pain. As I said I had heard rumors about him. When I came upon him, he had both his— I call them slaves, not truly slaves but they had no freedom of their own. They were servants, but there was no place they could go; they could not escape him. They were fanning him with big leaves, and he was crying out in pain and rage, “Make the pain go away!”

Somebody brought me to him. Actually, he ordered me to come to him, but I did not come because he ordered me. I came because I saw a teaching moment for this man. So, I just came and sat beside him. He said he was told I could do some miracles. Fix his leg! I looked at him and acknowledged how serious his pain was. He said, “Yes; make it go away?” I said, “You really want to be free of pain, don’t you? I understand that.” I brought one of his slaves up. The man was exhausted; he had been fanning this broken-legged man all day in the hot sun. I said, “Do you think this man is feeling pain?” “No.” I said, “Well, it’s very hot, and he’s been fanning you all day. Do you think his arms and back may be feeling pain?”

Suddenly you could see the insight dawning. I didn’t hammer it at him; I just talked to him. At first, he was reluctant to acknowledge that this was possible. I showed him a burro that he used as a beast of burden that had bleeding sores on its back because he overloaded it. He wanted to get everything he could out of this beast. And its ribs were showing. “Do you think this burro is feeling pain?” “No…. maybe.”

We talked for over an hour, and he began to see that everyone experienced pain and everybody wanted freedom from pain. Then I said, “If your leg heals”— I did not say, “If I heal your leg”; I said, “If your leg heals, what will you do?” He said, “Go on living my life.” I said, “In the same way?” It was hard for him, but gradually he began to acknowledge, “Maybe I’d have to make some changes.” And he kept saying to me, “Now will you heal my leg? Now will you heal my leg?” I said, “I cannot heal your leg, because you are holding the break in your leg. But I will sit here with you and talk to you, visit with you. Help give you food. Just be present with you until the leg heals.”

 It should have healed in 6 weeks or so, normal time for a leg to heal. It took him 3 months; he was so filled with anger and agitation! But the three months gave him time. I wasn’t with him all day; sometimes I would be gone for a week and come back. But I saw the subtle changes in the way he treated these two slaves, who were becoming servants. First he would eat, then he would offer them some of his leftovers. Then, two weeks later he would start to eat, and look at them, and say, “Here, you take some.” Angry, but, “You take some.” And then, a month later, “Come, let us eat together.” So slowly his heart healed as his leg healed. Now I’m not saying I influenced the leg to heal slowly; I wouldn’t do that! But the timing was perfect, because by the time the leg was healed, the heart was healed. He began to recognize: everyone wants peace. Everyone wants to be happy.

How do we bring this lesson to those in the world who are so filled with anger and fear, and so grasping at power and control? We’re back to the beginning of our talk tonight. When you learn to quiet the fear, anger, even rage and hatred and bigotry in yourself, to hold space for yourself and truly feel compassion for the places of pain in yourself, then you will know what to do, and how to speak to others. This is not complacency; what comes next will be dynamic, active. You may feel yourself moved to organize in some way. There is a beautiful old book that was printed by the American Friends Service Committee that Aaron is reminding me of, that is called Speak Truth to Power. I believe you can find and download it online, and you might find it an interesting read. https://www.afsc.org/sites/afsc.civicactions.net/files/documents/Speak_Truth_to_Power.pdf How do we speak truth to power from a loving heart?

I see it’s 9 o’clock, so we will end here.

My deepest love to all of you. May you all be filled with joy and peace. May you find the love that is within your hearts, and your power to communicate that love to all beings everywhere. And in this way, the world truly will be free of suffering and become the higher vibrational planet that it is meant to be. You can do it. It is why you came.

I’ll give you Aaron. My love, and thank you for being with me tonight.

Aaron: Thank you, Jeshua, and I am Aaron. Thank you all for being with us tonight. I love you all. Take these teachings into your heart. Make them alive in you. As Jeshua just said, this is what you came for. Thank you all. I will release the body to Barbara.

(session ends)